No Agenda Episode 376, "Party@Ecropolis" (2012-01-22)

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Adam Curry:
As everyone knows, on these live shows i have to... I can't hit record and I can't do the transferring and editing, so they get the little pre-stream that goes with it
Okay, i think we can try it.
hello?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
Getting another little piece of paper
Alright, hit it!
Jingle:
Adam Curry, John C Dvorak
Adam Curry:
It's Sunday, January 22, 2012, time for your gitmo nation media assassination; Episode 376
Jingle:
This is no agenda
Adam Curry:
Tracking the elites, even when on vacation here in the diver's paradise, Bonaire, the Netherlands Antilles, just 60 clicks north of Hugo Chavez's presidential studios, in the morning everybody. I'm the original prepper, known as Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And from northern silicon valley where i can hear every other word there from the old Bonaire, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Jingle:
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill
In the morning!
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
hey-you-dont-need-more-than-every-other-word:
that's enough. That's fine.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you're right about that.
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
Did you tweet? Did you let everyone know that we're on the air? That we're live? That we're doing something here?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, no.
Adam Curry:
Would you please do that? That's kind of-
John C. Dvorak:
I'll do that as we go along this.
Adam Curry:
That's kind of critical.
In the morning, John, from the tropical island known as Bonaire.
John C. Dvorak:
It's raining here.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's going to rain here later too. It's been...
John C. Dvorak:
In...
Adam Curry:
Sorry?
John C. Dvorak:
So, in the morning to you! And in the morning to all ships at sea, which may be running into your island. And boots on the ground, which may be invading your island.
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
And feet in the air, which may be you.
Adam Curry:
In fact, actually the ships and the boots go hand in hand as military cruisers patrolling the island here.
For those of you who don't know where this is, we were here. Actually, it was August of 2010, last time we were in Bonaire.
Adam Curry:
Miss Micky and I - nice invitation from Lex Luthor, and the Iranian princess, to come and visit and stay here and so i'm actually - these houses are all wide open, so i'm actually out in the open.
They're having lunch. They don't care about the show.
You can hear them in the background, but you can also hear the - I'm actually looking out over the water here.
You can hear the birds.
There's some parrots who might perk up in a minute.
But most importantly the wind is blowing quite heavily, and we'll probably see some rain before the end of the show.
Adam Curry:
But anyway, nice to see everyone in the chat room there!
noagendastream.com
noagendachat.net
thank-yall-every-much-for-showing-up:
showing your love.
John C. Dvorak:
-mumbling-
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
are you doing your taxes?
John C. Dvorak:
I'm typing up your twitter thing you wanted me to do
Adam Curry:
Oh, ok.
And yeah! So it's actually it's interesting, you know. We were here, what? So yeah about, almost a year and a half ago, and since that time...
John C. Dvorak:
Has the place changed?
Adam Curry:
Yes, the place has changed!
Now you'll recall that 2011, January 1, 2011, the Dutch government basically turned this place into like a province or something and so now, in an island of 15,000 inhabitants, they have 600 government workers now living here.
Hello?
John C. Dvorak:
I lost what you said, all I heard was "dutch inhabitants" and then there was nothing.
Adam Curry:
Oh, I said in an island of 15,000 inhabitants, they have 600 government workers now here, all flown in from the Netherlands, and all running the show.
And it's running great!
John C. Dvorak:
Except for their web connection
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
Well, here's the thing.
So, first of all, taxes have tripled in property taxes.
They now have new property taxes, so everyone's paying three times as much in property taxes.
Adam Curry:
But they've dug up the entire island to connect fiber! And a sewer system, which is now being put in, but will never be connected.
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, so here's how it works.
John C. Dvorak:
What do you mean? ok
Adam Curry:
Well, because the government, now check this out:
The European Union gave the island of Bonaire 28 million euros to upgrade their infrastructure.
So some contractor, you know, got the contract.
Adam Curry:
And he's putting in sewer pipes. And he's putting in the fiber. But if anyone wants to connect to the sewer system or the fiber, they have to pay for that themselves.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
So has anyone paid for it?
Adam Curry:
No! Of course not! No one's going to do that.
They use their septic tanks. You know, they poop in the ocean. And why would anyone pay for a fiber connection? When you've got this great connection already?
John C. Dvorak:
-chuckle-
Well if I was there, I'd hook to that fiber. It'd be all me.
Adam Curry:
Yep, but you also have to connect it somewhere else.
See, the fiber is just in the ground here.
It's not connected to anything outside of the island.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, there's no head end.
Adam Curry:
No! There's no internet service provider.
John C. Dvorak:
It's just fiber.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, exactly.
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
Hey it takes a lot more than just dropping a bunch of fiber in the dirt and thinking that's gonna do something.
It's not magic.
Adam Curry:
Well yeah. That's the whole point, but luckily there's 600 government workers here to oversee the festivities and all is well.
Adam Curry:
But that's not the real issue, there's two problems that have really cropped up here.
One is: they now have cruise ships docking every single day, which really, of course ruins everything, because these cruise-
You know, and I'm on the inside track here.
Everyone hates it because the people who come off the cruise ship, all they do is come on land and, you know, they don't eat anything in the restaurants, because they get the free food on the ship.
And they don't buy anything, they go into shops and they steal stuff.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
What do they steal?
Adam Curry:
You know, souvenirs. You know.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
They're like doing flash mobs. Like, "Hey! Oh, this is a very nice shop," and then, you know, they don't buy anything.
They just steal stuff.
They just slip it into their pocket and they get on the ship and they're gone!
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
But the real issue...
John C. Dvorak:
So, you're saying that the people that take these cruise ships are all a bunch of petty thieves?
Adam Curry:
Yes! a-holes!
-chuckle-
Total douchebags.
-chuckle-
Adam Curry:
But the worst thing is, we have not seen Hugo Chavez's home brewed beer, Polar Beer, in about four weeks.
Shipments have stopped, so now there's a real panic.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, this is fascinating.
Adam Curry:
Well, no, not really
John C. Dvorak:
So, uh...
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
I was just trying to say the same thing, yeah
I was hoping you'd have something.
Some good anecdote.
Just as an aside, I want to- I just had this sick situation on Twitter.
John C. Dvorak:
I just put the twitter thing up.
So you should have at least two more people listening.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
So I go there. You know it says "similar to," and it recommends that you go to other people?
Adam Curry:
Follow somebody, yeah?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, "follow this guy."
So it says Soupy Sales.
Adam Curry:
He's dead!
John C. Dvorak:
That's what I said to myself!
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
So I click on it, and it's all his tweets up to his death!
Adam Curry:
Cool!
John C. Dvorak:
His last tweet is 16 March, 09. He died in october.
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
And so you read this. It's kinda like a sick- it's like a-
Apparently, he was on Twitter and he was making wise remarks up to the end.
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
And about some of his different friends, and you know, slamming people left and right, and lots of stuff about Meredith MccRae. I guess he had a crush on her.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And then he drops dead.
But why? You know, I wonder how much, you know, kind of "dead zone" stuff is gonna be on Twitter over time?
I mean, is there Joe Paterno's tweets on here, too forever?
Adam Curry:
Well...
John C. Dvorak:
He died this morning
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I know. Let's hear the clip.
Clip:
There's a statue of the famed coach outside Penn State's Beaver Stadium.
To say Paterno was a beloved figure in state college, is an understatement.
Paterno's program always had a squeaky clean image, avoiding any major scandals that involved other schools,
but Penn State was thrown into turmoil following the charges levied against Sandusky in November of 2011.
Upon his firing, students rallied outside of Paterno's home.
Clip:
The long time Penn State coach injured his pelvis and right shoulder in August of 2011 after getting blindsided accidentally by a receiver during pre-season practice.
Just weeks before he turned 85, it was announced Paterno was being treated for lung cancer.
He would also break his pelvis again in a fall at home. Steve-
Adam Curry:
So very interesting when I heard the summary of what has happened to this guy ever since this scandal came out.
But of course, this is all revolving around the Pedo Bear foundation, Two Mile, run by Sandusky.
And it seems pretty clear to me, John, that the guy got a couple warnings, you know, it's like, you know, like the mob usually does.
Adam Curry:
They'll break your pelvis; throw you down the stairs.
"Oh, sorry! The defensive lineman ran into you,"
And then now he's dead.
And of course, you'll probably be invited to follow him on Twitter, but dead men can't talk, that's for sure.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no.
Well Soupy Sales had a last couple of one liners.
I might as well read them, his last tweets.
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
I don't care about that
John C. Dvorak:
"Happy 2009 kids! Uncle Soup's kicking around for another year, which is six more than I can say for that prick, Buddy Hackett"
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
Alright.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh man! Bad!
Adam Curry:
I'm thinking, I'm seriously thinking this was a very clear-
SFX:
silenced gunshots
Adam Curry:
-two to the head
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. No, you would think that, and I'm not gonna argue that it wasn't.
It was just...
Yeah, well he never did speak up, he just said, "Hey, I did what I did."
Adam Curry:
Right
John C. Dvorak:
I didn't see that he was gonna speak up.
I mean, you're making the assumption that he was close to talking and spilling the beans on this whole scam - whatever it was.
Adam Curry:
I'm, no, I'm not really making that assumption, but let's say there would be an investigation, you know, then...
John C. Dvorak:
Why take a chance, so it's like the end of the movie, what movie was it? Casino?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah
John C. Dvorak:
Where they go around and they ask the mobster, they should kill their best friend who's the lawyer, and everyone says, "No, he's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy," everyone says that.
The guy at the very end says, "Eh, why take the chance?"
Adam Curry:
"Why take the risk?" Yeah, exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
So they shoot him.
Adam Curry:
And they off him
And I'm also in the mindset because there was more of that Ulsterman, with the White House Insider that came out.
Which, I think we should talk about that a little bit later, but oh my god! I'm so-
I have to say, if this is disinfo, it's really good.
But I am completely sucked into the conspiracy of The Obama Administration not thinking twice about killing somebody.
John C. Dvorak:
I missed the beginning of that.
What was this again?
What conspiracy are we talking about?
Adam Curry:
Oh we're talking about the White House Insider, The Ulsterman Report
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, right, right. You're back on that, okay.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah. So I want to talk about that later because I did a lot of research.
Because it's been really difficult.
You know we left Friday evening. A midnight flight.
And so you arrive in Bonaire at 6:30 in the morning.
Adam Curry:
And the airport by the way, you walk off the plane you know everything is outside its completely open.
And then you still have to wait 2 hours to get your fricking bags because 2 continental flights arrived at the same time.
One from Houston and one from Newark.
And the same guys that offload the bags have to on-load the bags to get - and do the check-in to get the passengers out again.
So it was horrible, you know, it was very hard to get any research done.
And everything is very slow so - but I did follow up on a lot of that, so we've got a lot to talk about.
Adam Curry:
And of course I was not able to see the I'm sure riveting coverage of the GOP X-Factor, but it looks like Newt Gingrich pulled it off!
John C. Dvorak:
Well he had to, I mean it was part of the original script.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
That if you remember when this whole thing began we outlined the script, and I have some thoughts on this, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
We outlined the script, which was that Romney was going to be the final choice.
But he - and he was going to win New Hampshire, but then Perry was going to come in and he was going to win South Carolina.
Everybody talked about that before any of these elections.
And then Iowa was up for grabs.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
And so, it's worked out perfectly.
And then Perry comes along and steps in - he's essentially a loser. He can't be a candidate.
And so he just had to quit, and so they still needed somebody to follow the script and win South Carolina. Besides Romney
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
Because then it would look like it would be fixed if Romney won
So Gingrich was the perfect guy for that.
Adam Curry:
So do you think, in following along with my theory that Gingrich, at least initially, was financed by The Clinton's?
That maybe the Clinton's helped do this?
Or do you think that,
I mean, it was clearly the news media.
As i was leaving, it was all about Gingrich, and Gingrich, and of course he completely-
Adam Curry:
He did an awesome job, which I also believe was scripted, with John King opening up the latest elimination round on the 'reality show' with hammering him about his ex-wife and open relationship.
And he just blasted the media, and everyone loves him for that.
John C. Dvorak:
Right, and there was no reason for that to be the first question, unless it was rigged for that exact purpose.
It was all acting.
He was flabber- he was, what was the- I can't think of the word.
Adam Curry:
Appalled?
John C. Dvorak:
Appalled! He was appalled by the question.
"Why would you start a debate like this, sir?"
Adam Curry:
Yeah, "I detest you. This is so wrong!"
Everyone loved that.
Erin Burnett, on some inside analysis, she said- and of course she's a Council of Foreign Relations shill - she said something very interesting:
Clip:
And he really says, "Look, here's what it is. If I want to say something what's red is blue, I say 'it's blue', and people believe me because I'm passionate."
Clip:
and he actually said that. and, i mean, i saw that. i'm sure you saw it across the state yesterday.
women voters, who said, "i was voting for mitt romney, and then i saw newt and he came out and he fought, and i know i have skeletons in my closet and i want someone who's going to fight and be strong, and i'm now newt all the way".
that sort of force and passion.
Adam Curry:
so what erin burnett is saying is when newt says "red is blue", people not only believe him, but women love him!
John C. Dvorak:
yeah, i'm not sure what the narrative there is, what that's all about.
Adam Curry:
well, i think...
John C. Dvorak:
i can tell you this.
John C. Dvorak:
the one thing that's come out of this is that this whole thing is rigged for one reason and one reason only, and i have a bunch of clips that kinda take us down this road
Adam Curry:
alright
John C. Dvorak:
this whole thing is scripted, and the whole idea came to me from reverend manning
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
John C. Dvorak:
who had... i don't have his clip, because unfortunately i've been looking at... it's a long story why i don't have it, but i'll just tell you in a nutshell what he said.
John C. Dvorak:
and as soon as he said that I said, "ah, yeah, it makes nothing but sense", because one of the guys behind the script is Rush Limbaugh, who is making 400 million dollars from Clear Channel
Adam Curry:
mm hmm
John C. Dvorak:
which is owned by Bain Capital
Adam Curry:
yes, correct
John C. Dvorak:
so we have, essentially, Rush Limbaugh working for Mitt Romney, because there's still a connection between Bain Capital and Romney, which is typical of all these venture firms, any of those types of firms, they have, once you're a member of the club your always a member it's just like it's almost like the CIA.
Adam Curry:
yeah, like the mob.
John C. Dvorak:
it's very mobby like. And so the idea is that, and I got some interest and I did some digging to find out, you know, that when the radio, when the rules where relaxed over
Adam Curry:
the deradiation
John C. Dvorak:
the radio being owned by one company that was during Clinton's administration so there is a Clinton connection here. And if you start looking at the people behind Clear Channel and what they're involved with including this group called the Robin Hood Foundation.
Adam Curry:
mm, hmm
John C. Dvorak:
the robin hood foundation, it's got people on the board, including the head of clear channel, jeffrey immolt
Adam Curry:
oh, oh, hello!
SFX:
ding
John C. Dvorak:
daniel oak, from oak ziff
Adam Curry:
uh huh
John C. Dvorak:
gwenyth paltrow
SFX:
ding
John C. Dvorak:
harvey weinstein
all democrats.
Adam Curry:
ah, how convenient
John C. Dvorak:
and so if you dig a little further, you'll find that clear channel's done a deal with fox, so all their talk shows are usually on a fox affiliate around the country, on the radio, the fox radio network
John C. Dvorak:
and they also did a deal, or, Bain Capital did a deal with MSNBC,
so they're all in bed together. And the goal here, because it's all media media media, and if you start looking at the clips, you start seeing some of this, the goal here is to keep this ball flying around as much as you can, so you can kick ass and take as much money as you can from the super-PACs and everybody else, because you have to advertise advertise advertise, and if all of a sudden it's a done deal, and you don't have to
John C. Dvorak:
advertise anymore, then the media companies don't get this huge payoff.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
So, so what you run into--in fact, I've got a number of clips, I'm just gonna play a few of them randomly, and every one of these guys on MSNBC and on Fox, and the MSNBC ones are more interesting, they play Rachel Maddow on Money, you'll find that she not only talks about how you need more money--they need more money, she actually encourages, even though she's condemning it, but by condemning it she encourages super-PAC money coming in so it can go back to
John C. Dvorak:
by condemning it, she encourages super-PAC money coming in so it can go back to--eventually she gets paid out of this.
Clip:
...money to win, you need to have enough money to win, and I think there's no question that if he wins tonight, Newt Gingrich is going to have enough money to compete all the way through these Super Tuesday states.
Clip:
And you know, the--today is, I should say, happy birthday to Citizens United. Citizens United turns two today, and that means that not only are we talking about money he can raise from individual people donating to his campaign, but his eccentric billionaire or some other eccentric billionaire who wants to come on and support him and donate, and we'll
Clip:
billionaire, or some other eccentric billionaire who wants to come on and support him can donate a multi-million-dollar chunk of change to his super-PAC, as happened...
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute, did she just congratulate the advertiser?
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Did she just say happy birthday to the--this is like like saying, "happy birthday to August Busch IV, one of our big Budweiser sponsors here, everybody, how you doing?" What a douche.
John C. Dvorak:
So she's essentially, so she's all yay-ing super-PACs, but she's encouraging--if you listen, if you read between the lines, she's encouraging the guys that...
Adam Curry:
More money!
John C. Dvorak:
...all the money to--
Adam Curry:
More money!
John C. Dvorak:
More money.
Adam Curry:
Do you know that--
John C. Dvorak:
So you list--
Adam Curry:
I was gonna say that I had it in the show notes on the last episode. Rachel Maddow is the number one guest at the White House. She has visited the White House more than any other journalist.
John C. Dvorak:
Ohh.
Adam Curry:
Uh-huh.
John C. Dvorak:
Interesting.
Adam Curry:
Uh-huh.
John C. Dvorak:
It means something. It means something. I mean, we've discussed some elements of that. Now here's Michael Powell, the head of the former RNC, Republican National Committee chairman, on Money.
Clip:
Again, it starts with the money, conservatives around the country would take a look at this race tonight, and they will respond on Sunday morning with going to his website and writing a check. And I think that's what Newt is counting on, and coming out of here strong with a four, five point edge over Romney...
Adam Curry:
I love this, John. You're nailing him now. You got him. Yeah, oh yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Now we go back--now we go over to Fox. Now, that was all MSNBC, they're encouraging the money.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
But you go over to Fox, and they're a little more blatant about it. Here's Brett, their news anchor talking about the election. Brett on the money bomb:
Clip:
Ron Paul, and that's continuing but as you look a lot of people ask they're so few votes in, how can you make that call?
Based on the Exit Poll data and the raw vote totals that are coming in, they're projecting that Newt Gingrich is going to win big.
By the way, he just tweeted "Thank you, South Carolina. Help me delivery the knock-out punch in Florida. Join our money bomb and donate now"
So you can see that...
Adam Curry:
ha
Clip:
...money is factoring into Florida already.
Clip:
Yeah, and in the meantime the Mitt Romney Campaign
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
Clip:
with our senior editor..
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
This is great! These are awesome codes codes!
I'm waiting for someone on Fox to go, "SHOW ME THE MONEY, BITCHES!!"
-laughter-
jd: -laughter-
Adam Curry:
This is great. I love it. Perfect.
John C. Dvorak:
So, they keep going on and on. I only have one more.
Ed Schwartz, who's really toned it down because they've finally got him under control.
So he's delivering the right message.
John C. Dvorak:
And Ed Schwartz who's back on MSNBC, pretty much with the same message you got. 'You guys out there, this is just a big fight.
You know, if you want you man, you better give him money!'
Clip:
I mean and so earlier today, you heard Mr. Puente talking on this network talking about it's infrastructural, it's the long-haul and that's what Mitt Romney has been counting on all along.
So if he's going to raise money, he's going to have to do it awfully fast.
Adam Curry:
Yeah! Get that money to us quick! Advertise! Go! Go! Go! SuperPAC's Go!
Wow! wow.
John C. Dvorak:
so the whole thing is a..and I put Rush Limbaugh is the one Manning when after saying he's just a stooge for Clear Channel, because who else would get four-hundred million?
John C. Dvorak:
This is not just a minor- I mean, he's got more money in the bank then Romney does.
Adam Curry:
yeah
John C. Dvorak:
And he's got his marching orders, and it was Rush Limbaugh who first triggered the 'let's get Perry in there'
He's the one who is setting up the scenarios and he was way! against Romney, but now he's really pro-Romney.
And he's the guy, if you remember, now this is a guy that supposed to be this big conservative.
And he's all, you know, well somewhat conservative. He's got his private jet but he's a conservative.
John C. Dvorak:
And he's the guy who put the tinfoil hats on Ron Paul's pictures when he ever talks about Ron Paul...
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
...on his website.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
He's got tin foil--Ron Paul, the only guy who's a--is probably the only genuine person in the whole race. I mean, he's honest, nobody else seems to be, and this whole thing is corrupt. Ron Paul luckily is not fouling the works up because he's been marginalized to such extent.
John C. Dvorak:
In fact, I was watching a local news show where they showed the debate, and they had framed the picture of the debaters to cut Ron Paul out of it...
Adam Curry:
-laughs-
John C. Dvorak:
...on the far right. That's why they put him on the edge, because then you could frame it with John King, and then three guys, and Paul out. Which is, like, kind of the message.
Adam Curry:
Well...
John C. Dvorak:
Now, the peop--go on.
Adam Curry:
Well, I was going to say, it's so interesting, you know, with all these super-PACs, and people have to understand that the rules changed for this election, which, of course, you know, as you're demonstrating eloquently, was obvious that we--
Adam Curry:
We all know that all the know that the money eventually goes to the media.
I mean, didn't we even- Weren't we reading in advertising age, about 2 years ago?
About how they were prediction a bonanza this year for advertising?
And all the media networks were all excited about it?
And the trade press talking about this for quite a while.
How come we're not getting any donations from SuperPACs?
jd: Well, there's no reason to give us any money because, for one thing, we're being honest about the situation.
And trying to tell these people not to donate anything.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And this is the reason why Romney should
John C. Dvorak:
have been- he is the chosen one, and he is the one that is in line go next the same way John McCain was.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
But you can't ha- but the media gets screwed if that's a done deal right off the bat because you had least get this 'super Tuesday' where I think twenty-one states all have their election on the same day.
And that's where the money gets- that's where the real dump of half of billion dollars gets thrown at the media, and they just haul it in and put those ads up.
John C. Dvorak:
They don't care what the ads say, they just take the money and then once that's over with then it'll be kind of done and then the big national election takes place.
That's when the billion dollars that Obama has, has to matched by a billion dollars
The media just has to be drooling over this, and Clear Channel is obviously one of the schemers to keep this thing so they can milk every penny and dime out of it.
So this will be a close election. The whole time. You watch.
Adam Curry:
This is..
John C. Dvorak:
When the two guys,
Adam Curry:
go ahead
John C. Dvorak:
start to fight, Romney and Obama,
John C. Dvorak:
it's gonna be close, close, close, close because that just encourages media spending.
This is the most corrupt thing I've ever seen.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's interesting because that fits really well into the research I've been doing about the White House insider, and all these people disappearing, and dying, and getting indicted surrounding the 2008 election.
One of the things that the White House insider talks about is about all that money.
And that kind of story went away.
Clip:
Remember all those stories about campaign finance for Obama coming from foreign countries, and there were bundlers who were apparently Americans living overseas?
And they were, of course, only taking money from Americans? But it was all really cagey? It was like three-four hundred million dollars? Remember those stories, John?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Oh yeah. We talked about the possibly that all these single donations are actually big chunks of dough.
It was an elaborate scheme to like take a bunch of huge donations then spread out them over- nickel and dime them and then bring it in through the internet
and it was not traceable at that point.
Adam Curry:
Well I've looked into some of those articles and some of the research that was done - not by the mainstream media of course, but by people like Pamela Geller, who runs http://AtlasShrugged.com
And it's really unbelievable when you look at all the research she's done.
And I think we've probably what happened here and the whole superPAC regulation came into play was that they knew that this was too hot an issue.
Adam Curry:
They couldn't do the whole money laundering and bring it through the internet any more because people will be looking out for that.
And they said, 'Well screw it. Let's make a law that we can just have any money coming from anywhere.'
And we have no idea the SuperPACs get their money from, that doesn't matter.
So it's legal whitewashing with the same effect: advertising dollars.
And as we know that's how, we chose our presidents in United States.
Because it's not just the consumers who get indoctrinated just like they're told to buy which car to like, and which soap powder.
But also you're going to get the most
profitable spin and you're going to get the nice scripts being executed by the media companies that are being paid!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. It's all.. it's media govermented industrial military complex. I mean, it's unbelievable. Adademia has been kicked out of the picture. But it's just a complete fiasco and Ron Paul, if nothing else, is .. when all said and done.. when people start to analyze what actually, what we witnessed (especially with the marginalization of Paul by the media.
John C. Dvorak:
In fact I do have a clip. I've got the Ron Paul of Fox. Where he's with Neil Cavuto and he's starting to bitch about something or about the media and Cavuto's looking left (you can't see it on this clip, obviously) but Cavuto's looking left and looking right and they're yelling in his ear and he cuts to commercial and that's the end of Ron Paul.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
.. is right now congressman. Good to have you.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Thank you, Neil. Good to be with you.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
How important is this state for you?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Well, it's very important but it's not do or die. You know, we expect to pick up some delegates as we have continued to do so and we'll continue on.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
You know, it's interesting. It is a proportional vote. Along the way I... proportional vote. Uh.. even if you're second ...
Adam Curry:
[interrupts clip]
Wait a minute... What does that mean, John? "Proportional vote" ? What does that mean?
John C. Dvorak:
Well that means that if he gets 10% of the vote, he gets 10% of the delegates.
Adam Curry:
Yeah but it's only like ... we're not even at 1% of all delegates combined yet, are we?
Adam Curry:
I mean it's... it's not--
John C. Dvorak:
No, but... but the point is he picks up votes-- no matter, he doesn't have to win to get a couple delegates.
Adam Curry:
OK.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
...or third. Certainly nothing wrong with that. You've been very very consistent. Uh... you've amassed quite a few delegates, whether or not you got the nomination, and certainly you have a powerful voice. I know you obviously want that nomination. But let me ask you about this process, and the extremes. Um... you've seen the leaders go up and down. Now Iowa's been recertified to show Santorum won and not Romey.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
South Carolina when Romney was winning. He might lose. What's going on within your party?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Well, I don't think the message is very clear. I have a very clear message but I'm challenged with the status quo. The rest of the candidates...
John C. Dvorak:
[to Adam] You are stepping all over the clip!
[Adam interrupts the clip]
Adam Curry:
I'm sorry John. Yeah .. that's not on the .. that's not on the air. You were just hearing me off the air.
John C. Dvorak:
Ahh.. Oh!
Adam Curry:
I'll continue, don't worry about it.
[clip resumes]
Clip (Ron Paul):
don't see what difference they are going to make.
Clip (Ron Paul):
.. because I don't see what difference they are going to make. So their numbers come and go. But if you look at ours... You know there was one time, not too many months ago, they knew that we had a significant group of people that were interested in what I was doing and having a precise definition of what government should be doing, but the ceiling is always 8 or 9 percent, you know. Yeah, he's doing okay but there is a ceiling. But now that ceiling shifted to about 17 or 18 percent. Now they are conceding that, you know, it over 20% and if you include independents and democrats our percentages are much better. You not too long ago
Clip (Ron Paul):
there was a poll done where I was up against Obama and I was equal to Romney in that, so... and democrats.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
I agree. I mean, you've been remarkable phenomenon but I always think you're like a, sort of a, think Rodney Dangerfield. You don't get any respect. Does that bug you?
Clip (Ron Paul):
[audible laughter] Well, I think a lot of people think that. And certainly Jon Stewart thinks so. You know this whole idea. I mean if someone told me from this last debate. I thought I did rather well and
Clip (Ron Paul):
they went down the number of times they mentioned the other three candidates in the review of the debate. And it was, you know, like 80-90 times depending which it was. I was mentioned one time in all of the discussion of the debate after it was over. Now you might argue that I didn't win or some people argue that I did.
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
Well, you had to do what you had to do.
Clip (Ron Paul):
.. but there was certainly no more than one mention on ALL the stations. Somebody had to have edited these ALL out ....
Clip (Neil Cavuto):
Thank you, guys ..
[inaudible Neil Cavuto talking over Ron Paul]
Adam Curry:
[laughing] GET HIM OFF!! SHUT HIM OFF!! CUT TO COMMERCIAL!! GO! GO! GO!
Awww, man.
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckles]
Adam Curry:
So I'm ... while that clip was running I'm sorry. The rain just started pouring down and I had ahh.. people scrambling here trying to move my electrical wires a little bit out of the water's path. So ...
John C. Dvorak:
Ahh, yes. So you don't get killed on the show?
Adam Curry:
Yeah. You know? Think about the donations!
[Adam and John both laugh]
Adam Curry:
Speaking of which ... Why don't we thank our producers and then move on
Adam Curry:
-chuckle-
Speaking of which, why don't we thank our producers and move on with the show?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, we've got a couple of Executive Producers and one Associate Executive for this show, 376. and I want to thank them.
William Che in Douglaston, New York.
"Happy Chinese New Year, John and Adam. I'm giving $337.76 worth of my love today. $160.88 is the number that represents prosperity and good fortune in Chinese."
We've got to put that on our list.
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second, that's important here.
Adam Curry:
Important here.
Jingle:
chey chong woo!
Adam Curry:
There you go.
John C. Dvorak:
And $337.76 is twice that for the two of you.
"Can I get karma for my 102 year-old grandfather who injured his hips two years ago and he has been living in rehab since then. Thanks"
Jingle:
You've got karma
Adam Curry:
Very nice. Thank you, for the love. Both to us and the karma to your grandfather. Very nice.
John C. Dvorak:
And up in your neck-of-the-woods; Loredo, Texas. Nathan Rubio, 333.33.
John C. Dvorak:
" Confessions cause I'm a boner, I've wanted to donate for some time and having to include my first payment to my knighthood and some prototype rubs we are pondering."
He sent me some, he is pondering...
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute, what's that?
John C. Dvorak:
Spice guy, I guess it's a beef rub. a rib rubs.
Adam Curry:
Oh! Okay, nice, excellent.
John C. Dvorak:
"If you wouldn't mind a shout-out to us, possibly needing some karma. Thanks for everything. Let's try to get together in Austin for a cook out."
He says... give him a karma
Adam Curry:
Yeah, absolutely! Here you go.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
I think you can most-- most people can find Rubio-- I've said, the reason that he's a listener, but he-- I plugged his... Rubio's Rubs... spices... Rubio's Spice Company on Twitter... on Twitter... on TWiT.
Adam Curry:
Oh, ah.
John C. Dvorak:
There's the basis of the lawsuit.
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
and he uh... because I use a lot of different rubs. I make my own too, but sometimes, you know, you're gonna cook something. You don't feel like going through all the rigmarole; somebody has a good one.
And this is the best commercial one I've had ever.
Adam Curry:
So let me ask you a question. When you're going to rub one out what do you ahhh.. what do you use, John?
SFX:
ding! (bell)
John C. Dvorak:
I use ahh.. I use glycerin. Thomas Weiler in Oberreichenbach Switzerland $211.20
'In The Morning John and Adam from Gitmo Nation Fondue Cheese! I would like to send a big shot of Karma to Ron Paul and a MILF to me
..[ name unintelligible due to connection]..
give him a double of those if you can.
Adam Curry:
Alright. Giving him the double shot ...
Jingle:
MILF! 'That's one mother I'd like to *HONK* *HONK*' / 'You've got Karma' ♪♫♪♫♪
John C. Dvorak:
With this donation, I'll become kind of a half a knight. Last couple of shows were outstanding, by the way. I send $33 USD on June 29th for a podcast license, and it never showed up!
Adam Curry:
They don't show up. You go to your firstname.lastname.podcastlicense.com, when did he send it?
John C. Dvorak:
And there it is.
Adam Curry:
When did he send it?
John C. Dvorak:
It was meant to be a birthday present. Would you please send me one and put the 6/30/11 on it. Great hair. Love you, mean it, no homo.
Adam Curry:
That's a long story. Forget about it. Don't worry about that part. I'll look into it. I'll make sure we... but it's not a physical license, it's an actual online license. It's firstname.lastname.podcastlicense.com.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, we talked about it quite a bit. I'm surprised he didn't realize that. But anyway, so those are our two executive producers and one associate executive producer for show 376. We want to remind people to go to dvorak.org/na. Help us out! We need it! This is a
John C. Dvorak:
I want to remind people to go to http://dvorak.org/na
Help us out. We need it. For some reason, this has been an extremely slow month.
http://dvorak.org/na , http://channeldvorack.com/na , or http://noagendahow.com , or http://noagendanation.com .
And you can click on the donation buttons on either one of those sites and we could use all the help we can get.
Clip:
Why? Because donation is love.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. It has been a slow month for some reason and I'm not quite sure what's going on.
Adam Curry:
People are saying they like the previous shows, but..
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah when they listen to them.
I think some people are way behind in their listening.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
Not sure what the deal is, but I'm not liking it.
Adam Curry:
No. Now I will say that, you know, so here we are.
Missy Micky and I have not been on vacation since we have been together, actually for uh..
John C. Dvorak:
What about the Hot Pockets cheese tour?
Adam Curry:
That was - It wasn't a vacation! What you you mean, "Hot Pockets cheese tour?"
Jingle:
Hot Pockets
John C. Dvorak:
You went to Camel's Back Caverns, you went to - all over the place.
Adam Curry:
Are you kidding me? That was work!
Adam Curry:
That was real hard work! That didn't turn into any vacation.
But here we are, we're doing the show and of course, people are all on the chat room like, "Hey man! John's droppin' out every fourth word"
Yeah, duh!
This is what we call 'crisis situation', people. But here we are doing the show.
And let me program your brain:
Jingle:
dvorak.org/na
Adam Curry:
To continue, remember we have a lot of palindromes coming up. And we do appreciate that.
You can also become a special episode producer. All of the love that you can give us is not only appreciated, but is necessary. A couple of PR associate mentions today.
'Hey Citizens. This is Ash in the UK.'
Jingle:
Hey Citizen
Adam Curry:
And he has registered the domain name for us which is pointing to noagendashow.com. The domain name, Jon, is http://thepoorwillpay.co.uk. Which I think is nice. That of course refers to the situation in Euro-Land but really all around these Gitmo Nations when you think about it.
Adam Curry:
And a very easy one: http://CitizenSquirrel.com - of course that is a combination of
Jingle:
Squirrel!
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
Adam Curry:
So look forward to that pointing to http://NoAgendaShow.com
Adam Curry:
And then something really interesting; there's a domain called http://ReadNoAgenda.com
And this is set up by a producer who has developed- I think he has developed some software.
Adam Curry:
And the software helps you transcribe programming. And so here's his note:
"Why support this? #1 Our friends of the deaf and the hard of hearing can "listen" to No Agenda. Those who learn better by reading, then by listen can learn from No Agenda. Google and other search engine will return more No Agenda search results for current event search terms.
Adam Curry:
Long-time listeners can deep link into podcasts without having on-line discussions allowing potential new listeners to get a taste of the show who otherwise not be aware of it.
And increased donations as a side effect of increased reach leading to more episode of the quality we have come to expect, which I think is all beautiful and have you checked out the site, John? http://readnoagenda.com ? You see what's going on there?
John C. Dvorak:
No, I'm going to look at it right now.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, take a look and you will see that they have already started to transcribe episodes; 373, I think, and 374.
And they've got some software, which I haven't had time to look at,
Adam Curry:
But apparently, here's what he's saying here right on the page:
"If every producer spent thirty minutes transcribing each new episode, we could provide a full-text transcript of each new episode with potentially within hours of the audio is released. Please consider participating in helping build a team of loyal No Agenda Transcriptionists."
I like it!
John C. Dvorak:
No, it's a great idea, if we could do it. I've always wanted to get these shows transcribed because it does have a lot of benefits.
John C. Dvorak:
Not to least of which is our ability to look up stuff.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, searchability is great.
John C. Dvorak:
Besides the red book, which is, you know, painful to look things up in.
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
Everybody else who doesn't want to transcribe, you can always do something really important, and you know what it is. Propagate the formula:
Jingle:
Our formula is this: We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Jingle:
New! World! Order!
Adam Curry:
Everybody say it with me now!
Jingle:
New World Order (Say it with me everybody now)Shut up slave!
Adam Curry:
The rain is now falling here in Bonaire.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it's raining here too, so we're both in the rain. I want to mention one last thing about the election, unless you wanted to talk about that later.
Adam Curry:
No, I do have a couple of things. Go ahead.
John C. Dvorak:
I wanted to put a couple predictions in the book, one is if Newt gets going too well, where he could actually get the nomination,
either a scandal will hit. He'll have to quit.
Or something else out-of-the-blue will come out and it will knock him out of the race because he cannot be allowed to get the nomination. It's a done deal.
Adam Curry:
So I think the scandal thing, that was very cleverly done.
That was very well scripted. They knew exactly what they were doing.
This was no mistake. As you pointed out, there was no reason to start off the debate with that question. His answer was prepared. Ready to go.
He fired out and he hammered it. He knew he would be Ron Paul along for the ride. Of course Dr. Paul...
Adam Curry:
And of course Dr. Paul called out the companies that run the media. That wasn't in the script, obviously, but he knew he would get Ron Paul to say, "Yeah, that's right. That's bullshit."
So, I think they may be trying to dig up stuff from the past.
Gary Johnson, governor of New Mexico, who was also running as a Republican was not let into the debates because they said he didn't have enough in the average polling - which I actually think is a lie.
I think he probably did have enough, but they cut him out pretty soon.
He was on the knuckle-head station there, MSNBC.
And he brought something up which I think might, might possibly have legs since Ron Paul has an opinion on the topic as well.
This is about marijuana
Clip:
-laughter- I have one issue with Gingrich. You know, in 1997..
Just one? -laughter-
Yes, it is.
You must be his friend.
You know in 1997, he proposed the death penalty for possession of marijuana
in excess of two ounces with intent to distribute it .. Is that true?.. yes, from overseas, yes. And when asked about his own marijuana use (this is in 1997 when asked about his own marijuana use) he said, "well when I did it, it was cool."
Adam Curry:
That one could have legs.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's got lots of potential.
Adam Curry:
I had no idea. I haven't had time to verify this but it doesn't matter.
John C. Dvorak:
I like it.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] Two ounces.
John C. Dvorak:
It gives me a lot of possibilities, a lot of scenarios to take him out of the race if they have to. But they'd much rather keep it tight
as long as they can to keep the money rolling in. So, we'll see.
Adam Curry:
Possibly, possibly. And then there was some code which came in on I think it was CNN about Romney. Now I don't know if it was intended as code or if it was just an idiot. Well, actually I know the answer. Of course, it was some idiot analyst. Listen to the words that he used.
Clip:
Analyst: Half their problem is they let Gingrich run loose.
Gingrich picked up a ball bat to defend himself. He wasn't even thinking about doing anything - that they left lying on the table for a year. What is that ball bat? Gingrich says, "Look, it's how much change you want in Washington. Do you want something big? Romney hasn't done that. He's an incrementalist. He comes across a tweaker.
Adam Curry:
Hello? Tweaker?!
John C. Dvorak:
A 'tweaker'?
Adam Curry:
You know what a 'tweaker' is, don't you?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you tell me.
Adam Curry:
Well, it's a very popular term for people who are meth heads.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh right, right, right.... right.
John C. Dvorak:
right, right, right right.
Adam Curry:
And I look at the guy, 'Yeah! He might be a 'tweaker''.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, he could be the way he rambles on when they ask him a question he can't answer.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. He's a total meth head.
John C. Dvorak:
'Bwub-ba-bwub-ba-bwub. I'll bring my taxes in, I think by Wednesday but by Thurday, I don't know. Maybe by April. But everyone else doesn't do it when they do it. They do it-they normally do it the other candidates do it. But I-I-I-I-'
Adam Curry:
Rick Santorum, that lying sack of frothy mix, he says,
He says "No. My taxes are on my computer so I don't know what it was." However he then stumbles later and says "Oh it was a very unhappy check I had to write."
So in other words, he already did his taxes so he knows EXACTLY what it is. He's a liar.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh really? I missed that!
Adam Curry:
You didn't catch that? Oh yeah .. yeah he says.. first it's like "it's on my computer at home. So when I get home ... ... there's no one there... "
Hey ever hear of Go To PC? Idiot!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
They're like [in a retarded voice] "I cannot get to my PC right now. It's on my computer."
But then he says, "I wrote a very unhappy check, so I know it was a lot." Well then you know what it was. Look, if you're doing your taxes yourself on your computer, and I don't know if that's true or not, and then you send the check you know exactly what you wound up paying. It's a lie!
Adam Curry:
Speaking of which this little ditty which is not being discussed. The Internal Revenue Service has started
a new project to upgrade their website.
Now, I have to say I did, for the first time, I did my taxes - the previous year, I went to H&R Block - which I think is quite easy, actually.
And this year, I decided to do everything myself, and I actually I
John C. Dvorak:
Yikes.
Adam Curry:
..worked it clo.. Now, it was fine, I worked close with Mimi, your better half. And you know, I had a couple questions, and I tried look it up on the irs.gov website
I tried to look it up on the irs.gov website. Have you ever looked at that piece of crap? Have you ever tried to find an answer on that thing?
John C. Dvorak:
Ah .. some years ago I used it a couple of times.
Adam Curry:
It's horrible! It's shambles. So they've decided they're going to upgrade the website. What do you think the budget is?
John C. Dvorak:
8 MILLION DOLLARS
Adam Curry:
Oh please guess again!
John C. Dvorak:
80 million dollars
Adam Curry:
Please guess one last time.
John C. Dvorak:
800 MILLION DOLLARS!
Adam Curry:
Okay, now you are just going crazy.
Adam Curry:
Three hundred and twenty million dollars to upgrade the IRS website
John C. Dvorak:
A website?! That ought to include building a new IRS building!
Adam Curry:
Here it is:
"The IRS's three hundred and twenty million dollar website includes: new more secure portals, so taxpayers can access more information"
SFX:
Bell ring
John C. Dvorak:
Like what?
Adam Curry:
I don't know, more secure portals.
John C. Dvorak:
What do you need secure portals for?
SFX:
Bell ring
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
I don't know, more secure portals.
John C. Dvorak:
What do you need to secure portals for? ... I mean .. Okay, the reason ... One of the things they want you to do is they want people to file electronically.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
So that is important.
Adam Curry:
Well, you can already do that. That already works.
John C. Dvorak:
That already works, so you don't need to spend money on that. So what is the other thing? Secure what for what?
Adam Curry:
Well I am reading from the article here
John C. Dvorak:
If I wanted a copy I could get a form W-9 from the IRS - I would just download it. How secure does that need to be?
Adam Curry:
"IRS does not have concrete plans of defining what additional online services the new web site will ultimately provide and how much the services will cost. To their credit, IRS officials have begun developing a road map." Ah, I bet they'll have a dashboard with attack vectors. What do ya think?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah, it'll be something corny.
Adam Curry:
Just unbelievable. So, what they're saying is they receive.. people aren't using the web site, they use the phone system and that they hate that. So, apparently they answered over 22 million calls for the 2011 tax season at a cost of about $30 a call! It costs them $660 million, they say.
WHAT??! Oh! And they are going to build an automated phone system as well which not included in the $320 million. They'll give more automated skip logic.. uh.. automated phone systems. Yeah. That's great.
John C. Dvorak:
Well as long as the oversight committees
So apparently they answered over 22 million calls for the 2011 tax season at a cost of about $30 a call! It costs them $660 million, they say.
WHAT??! Oh! And they are going to build an automated phone system as well which is not included in the $320 million. They'll give more automated skip logic.. uh.. automated phone systems. Yeah. That's great.
John C. Dvorak:
well as long as the Oversight Committiesof Congress are clueless about computer technology, umm, this is going to continue. In fact, not to change the topic, I'm not really changing the topic, but I do want to play this clip which exemplifies this. You know the SOPA and PIPA thing were going on..
Adam Curry:
Ah.
John C. Dvorak:
And this was taken from the Jon Stewart Show. Mel Watt, one of the congressmen, makes the following commentary.
Clip:
Watt: From my perspective, just as an old country boy, ummm...
from my perspective just as an old country boy, umm, and you know, it's the only way I can understand this complex stuff. We need parallels on the virtual .. In the virtual world to what we have in the real world and I think that this bill draws the appropriate balance.
Clip:
(Jon Stewart) You have no (bleep) idea what this thing is. You really don't. (audience cheering)I wouldn't worry about it too much
[applause] You're only... I wouldn't worry about it. You don't have to think about it too much. You're only the ranking member of the Intellectual Property Subcommittee... [audience laughter]
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Yeah, yeah, so let's talk about this for a second.
John C. Dvorak:
He's the ranking member and he doesn't know anything!
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Okay, so...
John C. Dvorak:
Who votes these idiots into office time and again?
Adam Curry:
Let me think, ah, that would be the public, John?
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, the public.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. So, you know, very interesting. The day after, and I believe that
this originally was scripted to happen the day before or the day of the actual scheduled hearing on the 18th of January.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah a lot of people were commenting on the coincident timing of the bust of.. ahh.. dot com
Jingle:
Coincidence?! I think NOT!
John C. Dvorak:
.. the ahh.. megaupload guy.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. No, there was no coincidence there. So we have megaupload.com who uh... The whole operation was indicted and of course in perfect retaliation,
indicted and of course in perfect retaliation which I also immediately am led to believe is scripted and I will get to why in a second. We had Anonymous go and attack the websites of the Justice Department, the MPAA, the RIAA ...
John C. Dvorak:
[snarkily] And God knows, we all want to hit that MPAA site and so disappointed that when I go to the MPAA site, it was taken down because it is so popular! What's even on that site??
John C. Dvorak:
What's even on that site?
Adam Curry:
I was trying to get to justice.gov and I could not get to it for a good hour or so and I was disappointed. But I finally got it because I wanted to read the 72 page indictment that the Justice Department immediately posted to see what exactly was going on. So I have an analysis of that if you're interested in listening. Ah..
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. No, the thing I want to mention.. do you think if you're talking about the whole thing being scripted, do you think that shutting down this, this, this and this and maybe shutting down justice.gov was done to keep people from getting hold of the indictment?
Adam Curry:
Could have been. It almost discouraged me. Literally I was like, I forgot about it. I was like 'Gosh uh.. I gotta go back and read that thing.' But, you know, they didn't have to put it up in the first place. I don't know if there is some regulation that they have to put the indictments up.
John C. Dvorak:
But they did. Okay ...
Adam Curry:
So the entire case is based on all of this internal email communication that they have amongst the members. Mainly the Dutch guy? Based upon this email communication, they know fully well
that there was illegal content on the servers. They were helping customers who couldn't get a hold of it. There's names, titles, .. all this stuff in here. So a couple things right off the bat... Is this guy an idiot? This Dutch guy? Is he a total complete nincompoop?! What are you using gmail??! Why don't you just CC the Justice Department, you numbskull!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
And there was ... literally.. all this money and of course what these guys were doing,
they had a...
John C. Dvorak:
What about the possibility that the Dutch guy was a mole just to get in there for that purpose...
Adam Curry:
Ahh, I'm going to get to this, I'm going to get to this. So I'm reading through all this and I'm like, okay, this is unbelievable. But it's not just him, it's Kim Dotcom would send off emails saying, hey this customer can't see the latest episode of Bones or whatever. And, you know, the real reason these guys got busted according to this document is because they had set up their own advertising network and they would get money from advertising on all the search sites. Right?
So, well if you searched for, let's say, The Artist, you wouldn't find a search result anywhere which pointed directly to any of the Megaupload.com sites. But if you were an affiliate (because they had a very sophisticated affiliate model in place) you would get their links and they ran the ads on the sites. That's obviously racketeering. There's no way around it if that is all true. They claim to be hiding behind the DMCA regulation but they had a tool that they would let
the license holders use but they had limitations. You could only remove five thousand videos a day. Meanwhile, these guys were (and this is all on the emails as well) downloading Youtube videos one for one. They pretty much had 30 percent of Youtube mirrored and were trying to get to 100 percent because this was kind of the legal side of their business which, by the way, is also pure theft. So, I'm reading through all this and I'm like, wow, you know...
John C. Dvorak:
Let me, ah, stop for a second. These emails, these very indefensible emails, none of them were originally encrypted or anything with some heavy duty encryption so they could have a conversation without discovery problems? Is that...?
Adam Curry:
That's what I'm saying. That's the first thing I'm looking at, like, this makes no sense! If you're running an outfit like that why are you going to have all..
John C. Dvorak:
You're encrypting.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, of course you are. I encrypt for this stupid little show! Are you kidding me!
John C. Dvorak:
Right and you get nothing.
Adam Curry:
Yeah [laughs]
Adam Curry:
Yeah I get nothing, No damning evidence. But then there's like this, this is the funniest thing... so I'm reading through this and of course you don't have to go to justice dot gov to get this thing, and it says here, "in part copies of copyright infringing works were downloaded by agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other participating federal agencies from the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center in Arlington, Virginia from computer services controlled by the Mega conspiracy." This is what they call the short name in the document
instead of saying Megaupload and the defendants, they just call it the Mega conspiracy which I think is also kind of funny. That's a line for the news media who read this stuff, IF they read this stuff. And I'm reading through this and then there's also...
John C. Dvorak:
Wait, wait, wait, wait. My understanding is that the parent company was named by Dotcom as Mega Conspiracy Corporation.
Adam Curry:
No. No. No. That is incorrect.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay.
Adam Curry:
And then I'm reading through this so there are all these emails .. Here, as an example, just one of them : "October 18th, 2007. Banko sent an email to Van Der Colk (sp??) indicating " sorry to bother you, if you have a second to find me some links for the Grand Archives Band I would be very happy" . On or about the same Van Der Colk responded with an email that contained a MegaUpload.com link to a Grand Archives music album with a statement "that's all we have, cheers mate!"
i-mean-all-this-very-all-this-stuff-out-in-the-open-clearly-stupid-but-then-check-this-out-laughs-they-had-these-customers-and-affiliates-who-they-were-paying-money-to-listen-to-where-the-guys-were-from-a-resident-so-their-names-are-only-initials-in-the-document-pa-a-resident-of-newport-news-virginia:
then we have C.B. a resident of Alexandria, Virginia. These are people that got paid money for propagating
John C. Dvorak:
Well maybe. I don't think everybody's quite aware of the Virginia connection. You know, dozens of agencies, intelligence agencies.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Okay, alright.
John C. Dvorak:
We are.
Adam Curry:
We're very aware of it. Now, here's what I'm going to submit to you. These guys were so blatant, this Kim Dotcom with his hookers, his blow, his house, all the spending and everything...
John C. Dvorak:
Have you seen that house, by the way?
Adam Curry:
Yeah! He had like 12 staff members, it's outrageous!
John C. Dvorak:
It's huge! It's got TWO tennis courts!
Adam Curry:
Let me tell you something. This whole operation, they were working for the feds. This whole thing is a P.R. campaign. That's why it was orchestrated in the manner that it was and the CLUE is that Clinton's former attorney, Robert Bennett, will be representing the company in their fight against the feds. [Long Pause] Come on! Stop insulting me! In 1994, 20 cops raided Dotcom's
home and he said, "No, no I like feeling like a spy. I was helping MCI in that particular case." These guys... this is... the whole thing, John, is bull crap. I think the whole thing is set up that they're not... they're going to Paraguay. They're not going to jail. These guys were working with the feds. This is a P.R. operation.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm not going to even come close to arguing against that because it looks set up, there was no encryption,
no encryption, these guys weren't very sneaky. Dotcom was out, he was essentially a front man...
Adam Curry:
Uhuh.
John C. Dvorak:
for publicity. That house, that crazy looking place in New Zealand is outrageous. I mean that place is just ridiculous. I mean, there's no way that they would have... I mean that place is obviously a safe house or something owned by the government. Who knows what the story behind... I think if you'd be looking at the story behind that house you may learn something.
Adam Curry:
Uhuh.
John C. Dvorak:
And then they whole thing, yeah the whole thing looks fake.
It was timed to coincide with these bills but these bills fell apart. And now ..
Adam Curry:
So they did it anyway. They had to do it.
John C. Dvorak:
Well I think once these things... once the clock is running they can't really stop it because not everybody is in on what's really going on. They can't just pull the plug. They've got a bunch of international stuff going on here and it's too hard to stop it.
Adam Curry:
Just think about it. When you have cars with license plates that say "GUILTY", "GOD", all .. this is so blatant
and-these-guys-loved-it:
they're living high on the hog, they knew that they were going to get busted. Like, screw it, this is what we do and they were encouraged to do this. By the way, this Robert Bennett guy [long pause] here he is: he represented Bill Clinton in his sexual harassment charges, he represented Enron against allegations of corporate fraud, he also represented Defense Secretary Clark Gifford and Caspar Weinberger. Come on man, it's so obvious!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Please! You're not fooling... meanwhile
no one is talking about the fact that The Supreme Court just basically said,'Hey Disney! You can have anything that is public domain. You can go and own that!' No one is talking about that.
John C. Dvorak:
No. Curiously the general council that we were talking about the other show our political show. One of the guys at Clear Channel was a general council at Enron and a Vice President.
Adam Curry:
Ah, yeah. Well ..
John C. Dvorak:
There's a lot of these. These are the same players
on all these games that we have to witness.
Adam Curry:
It makes me very, very sad. [sighs] And then we have Chris Dodd coming out. Chris Dodd, of course, was he a congressman or a senator? Chris Dodd?
John C. Dvorak:
I think he was a senator. I'll look him up while you're talking about it.
Adam Curry:
A senator. So he became a shill for Hollywood and he's now threatening Hollywood if they don't want to play games and support Barack Obama. Here we go:
Clip:
[Chris Dodd] '.. make the false assumption this year that because we did it years past, we're going to do it this year.' [Reporter} 'Former Senator Chris Dodd and content providers like News Corp, the parent company of Fox News, are pushing for anti-piracy legislation, known as SOPA, to protect copyrighted material. Tech companies charge it's censorship and when the White House expressed concerns last Saturday that appeared to tip in favor of them, Dodd was furious.' [Chris Dodd] 'This industry is watching very carefully. Who is going to stand up for them when their job is at stake?'
Adam Curry:
[laughs] It's the mob man, the mob is running everything. We're going to break your kneecaps son.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no that's a very controversial threat from Chris Dodd.
Adam Curry:
Yeah it is a threat.
John C. Dvorak:
Apparently called a bunch of people out saying, "Look, Hollywood gave you money. You better vote the way we tell you to." I mean it's like open corruption, you got money from these guys, essentially you got a bribe.
Adam Curry:
Now make good on your promise bitches!
John C. Dvorak:
He called these people out. I mean this is... if I was a senator I would be very leery of taking any money from Hollywood.
Adam Curry:
So, oh yeah. Well, so if we just follow this all through. So this legislation comes up, they've got this whole plan already set and I agree with you that they they probably weren't expected the level of blackout and whatever. Or, maybe they were. But they had this whole thing in their back pocket. Everyone's coordinated of course. This is probably what ACTA is all about,
Adam Curry:
Okay, everyone's coordinated, of course. This is probably what ACTA is all about, this ability to coordinate amongst all of the multiple countries and extradition etcetera. They have it all set up, they've got the lawyer in place to basically hook these guys up and this is all set and good to go. They pop this thing the day after the legislation which maybe was meant to pop on that day anyway, it probably was, so we would have the debate and then "Oh, see, we clearly need this but look how well everything is working." People would forget. Obviously we don't need an legislation because it works just fine they were able to pop these guys
and meanwhile we're actually seeing copyright law change before our very eyes which is not even being discussed. And then the Internet, if you look at Gitmo Nation East, here's how it's really going to happen, here's how the real censorship comes into your life.
Clip:
[Reporter] Last year the government published an independent review of the commercialization and sexualization of childhood by Reg Bailey, the chief executive of the Mother's Union. It called for urgent action from the Internet
It called for urgent action from the internet industry to better enable parents to filter what their children see online. And in response, the big four internet service providers, that's BT, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and Sky have pledged to force new customers to make a choice when their service is installed or activated. Do they or do they not want adult content filtered out?
Adam Curry:
So this is how it is going to be done and this is already taking place in Gitmo Nation East. Now it's for new customers
but pretty soon you'll have a questionnaire sent to your home. It'll say, "Do you want pornography?" And if you say "Yes" then you get the still freely available internet.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] No, you say "Yes" and there's a knock on the door in Gitmo Nation East.
Adam Curry:
But what's going to be filtered out of the porn-free version of Gitmo Nation East's internet is going to be SHOWS LIKE THIS ONE! That's what's going to happen! They just start rigging... who's running the filters? Please! This is how they do it.
Clip:
who's running the filters, please, this is how they do it, once again we're being duped, everyone is running around, and of course then the Anonymous, the whole beauty of Anonymous of making up this group, whether it's made up, real or whether it's a bunch of techno-experts is there's no tracing it back to who actually did the action, it's probably Hillary Clinton sitting there in the frick'n basement with her little goons doing this and calling themselves Anonymous.
John C. Dvorak:
Well they're not... once they turned... some of the Anonymous people supposedly have now turned their sites on the congressmen who supported the bill and going after their sites which makes a lot more sense to me.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Because it's the congressmen who are behind this. It's not, you know, everybody, I mean all these special interest people from Hollywood on, they have a special interest. They have a reason to do all this stuff. They're just greedy. But the congressmen buying into it and going along with the program are the people that should be voted out of office.
hey should be targeted as people that shouldn't be in anymore. They should get rid of all of them. Every one of them. Everyone who supports these crazy things or is an idiot like Mel Watt that does not know anything and is just dumb.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Yeah.
Why are these people voted in? Just vote them out and put anyone in and then vote them out if they are no good. I don't get this attachment to these losers.
Adam Curry:
And by the way, I encourage you to go to the show notes today 376.nashownotes.com and listen to the entire 10 minute report from the BBC
where they have all these psychologists talking about how porn is severely affecting children .. and they are growing up with abnormalities and they are getting all messed up cause porn is doing it to them. This is what's going to change the internet, fundamentally. Then on the back end ..
John C. Dvorak:
There is a secondary caution here which kind of begs the question which is, Why NOW on porn?
I mean is it.. you're claiming that it's just a smokescreen for what they really want to do which is filter out... oh, sorry, we accidentally filtered out "The No Agenda Show." Or we accidentally filtered out this guy, one of our political enemies. Because we got a call, somebody called and said it was bad.
Adam Curry:
Exactly, exactly. Here's what they're saying John. What they're saying is that you used to have to suffer the embarrassment of going to buy a porn magazine and that now it's so easy you can sit alone in your room with your glycerine, as you say, and the kids are getting addicted
to it and they're having abnormal relationships. The whole report is fascinating to listen to.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm.
Adam Curry:
I'm not saying it's wrong by the way. It might be true. It might be true that porn is doing harm to some people. But so does coffee!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well porn has been out of control for such a long time I mean.. the XXX thing cropped up they haven't forced anyone to go to that domain.
Adam Curry:
They also mention that in the report about dot XXX so anything XXX will be filtered out. No no, this is the setup and we're going to adopt that model here as well, You watch. I mean, it's so easy. You only need four companies to do it and its done. And it will be for new subscribers first, you have to choose, and then it will be, "Hi, this is Comcast. Can I take your order? Yes, do you want the porn version that might turn your kids into degenerates and ruin their lives or do you want the sanctioned Disney-fied free internet
that is all beautiful and is censored for your protection?" That's what it will be. That's how it's going to happen. And all this other stuff is all theater.
John C. Dvorak:
Why did it take them so long to come up with this scheme?
Adam Curry:
Because they were too busy watching porn!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] They're sick of it finally!
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Like we need new porn, we need good porn. Get the porn industry on board with this will 'ya? This is no good, this stuff.
John C. Dvorak:
It stinks. It's boring. Who ARE these women?
Who are these women and how come there are so many of them?
Adam Curry:
And how come they're not hanging out here?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I never see any of these women.
Adam Curry:
Oh man. Anyway, so that's my take on it and I'm really sticking to it and we keep watching and keep evaluating stuff and you'll see that bit by bit we'll find things come out. But I'm calling these guys, each one of them, shills including this Kim Dotcom guy.
I mean, please, please! This thing, they've been working on this for five years and all of a sudden the day after the so-called hearing all of a sudden - pop - there it is and the guy's getting defended by this attorney? No, no, sorry I'm just not going to buy it. It's a setup. It's a good one! Well done! And maybe all of that is an act, who knows.
John C. Dvorak:
It was very well executed.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay, let's see... So I have something kinda interesting!
Adam Curry:
Alright!
John C. Dvorak:
Here's a couple of things. This is a little... ahh... Well actually play the Real News theme and we'll go with that.
Jingle:
And Now Back To Real News ...
John C. Dvorak:
Okay, so I was listening to Entertainment Tonight which has become literally ridiculous with slipping plugs for
John C. Dvorak:
movies or TV shows into their news coverage to such an extreme, I have two clips, that, they're long, but it's just like they're plug-o-rama. Play news as movie plugs 1.
Adam Curry:
uh, hold on, now you're confusing me, John, you- you just sent me something on Skype to do, I don't understand what...
John C. Dvorak:
No, that's for later
Adam Curry:
Ugh, ok. Gotcha. Here we go.
Clip:
[Entertainment Tonight intro bumper] In depth on the biggest entertainment stories from around the world - the real life Hollywood murder mystery
drawing comparisons to Brad Pitt's movie "Seven". Hello, welcome to Entertainment Tonight. I'm Mark Stenies and Hi everybody I'm Nancy O'Dell. The search is on for a killer who left his horrifying mark below the famous Hollywood sign which in a strange twist is very close to Brad's home. And that is where our Christina McLarty is following this shocking case that seems to rip straight from a movie plot. [McLarty] The gruesome discovery, a severed head found in a plastic bag, the location - this
park in the Hollywood Hills where Brad and Angelina often take their kids to play. Behind this gate is Brad and Angie's house. It's just blocks away from Bronson Canyon and the hiking trail that leads to the Hollywood sign. Police say on Tuesday around 2:30 a mother and her daughter stumbled upon a decapitated head wrapped in a plastic bag. Police say it appears it was a male in his 40's with salt and pepper hair and he may be of Armenian descent.
[witness] 'It was set back from the trail in a place where most people don't go, in a bag under a bush. It was a caucasian male, older.. um ..it was pretty cleanly severed. There was blood in his hair...' This scene is reminiscent of Pitt's 1999 film, "Seven", on DVD now
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John C. Dvorak:
On DVD now!
Adam Curry:
a-ha ha!
Clip:
.. just steps away from the bat cave which was seen in the '60's television series, "Batman"
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Clip:
.. The park today is closed as the investigation continues
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Clip:
The crime scene is a popular shooting location seen in numerous films including "Friends with Benefits",
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
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with Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis sitting on top of the Hollywood sign.
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Clip:
Now the question - was this a mob hit? The Huffington Post senior crime reporter David Lohr explains how this could be a real-life Sopranos situation...
Adam Curry:
Oh wait...
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Adam Curry:
Oh man, good catch John. I' so happy you somehow have time in your busy day between rubbing your meat to watch this bullcrap.
But obviously, and you know what? Still no picture of the head. Let me tell you something. If I had found this head
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckling]
Adam Curry:
.. I'd be standing there, holding this head by the hair and you'd be on your iphone taking pictures of it and we'd be rich!
John C. Dvorak:
[light chuckle]
Adam Curry:
It's great! The news reports should be, "Have you seen this head? Does this head belong to you?" This is fantastic. The whole thing is fake! It's just to promote.... what is it? Is it all Paramount or something?
I betcha it's all one movie company, too.
John C. Dvorak:
Now on DVD! That is my favorite one!
Adam Curry:
Yeah [laughter] Wow that is unbelievable! You know, of course the Carnival .. the cruise ship capsizing wasn't good enough.
John C. Dvorak:
Well.. well, well here is clip number 2!
Adam Curry:
Oh no!
Clip:
[reporter]... in water this temperature it's unlikely that people could have survived but everybody's holding out hope. [transition] New footage of rescue divers in the ship wading through shoulder deep water surrounded by dangling chandeliers and floating furniture.
deep water surrounded by dangling chandeliers and floating furniture. 23 people still missing. Tomorrow night on ABC, Chris hosts a special 20/20 with heartbreaking stories of loss and survival.
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Chris, are people there in Italy talking about the similarities between the Concordia and the sinking of the Titanic?
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Mark, many of the survivors we talked to keep bringing up the Titanic,
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especially the scene when the ship has pitched and is starting to sink into the water and they had to rush up to the top and hold onto the railing looking over the precipice. We had people who did exactly that to survive on the Concordia.
I don't know if you can tell behind me right now. But it's at such a steep angle that literally they are using mountain climbing equipment to climb up it, so the Titanic movie keeps coming up...
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.. but in the worst way [transition] And a new excuse from the Captain. He is under house arrest and now telling prosecutors he didn't abandon ship, but tripped and and fell into a lifeboat. This as crew members and passengers report that Captain Schettino ate dinner with a woman and was with her as the ship started listing.
Clip:
In April, ABC will run a new miniseries, "Titanic",
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marking the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the ship.
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No clips yet, but ET has learned that David Calder will be the captain. Linus Roache and Geraldine Somerville playing key passengers.
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Could the Concordia tragedy come to the big screen?
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Clip:
Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood Reporter says the rumblings have started.
Clip:
[Bellamy] You have the villain and the captain. You have a spectacular crash here. You have a very, very life-or-death situation.
Clip:
This could be a Hollywood movie in a second.
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CBS News correspondent Allen Pizzey at the site. I asked him about the growing dangers there.
Clip:
Allen, this scene is surreal. What's the biggest problem rescuers face?
Clip:
This is like a scene from a movie, actually...
Adam Curry:
Like sharks.
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Clip:
...because behind me you can probably see the Costa Concordia laid over on its side. It's wedged on a rock.
John C. Dvorak:
That's good.
Adam Curry:
Aww, man, yeah. I told you these guys are brazen. Please don't pay attention to the real mob going on here, the real Mafia.
Adam Curry:
Which are threatening to kill each other as politicians; please focus on this bullcrap. It's perfect!
John C. Dvorak:
My favorite thing is they are equating it "just like the Titanic" This is nothing like the Titanic! It's a big boat that tipped over.
Adam Curry:
No [laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
It's sitting in the mud.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Oh, man! Oh my goodness, yeah! Good catch, yeah.
And people laugh at us when we say this, you know. But, I gotta say, good one! Good catch. Particularly that head ...
John C. Dvorak:
Ha! That head!
Adam Curry:
.. cause, you know, I read there was some news
Adam Curry:
I read that there was some news organization--
John C. Dvorak:
I didn't know he was Armenian, by the way. I mean, what was the deal?
I mean, there's a million Woody Allen Armenian jokes I could do about that, but I'm not gonna do any of them.
Adam Curry:
Oh. It's bull crap. And there's no head. It's just not true. I'll bet you we'll never see it.
It was some news outlet who claim they have a picture, and they were asking $5000, and no one wanted to buy it. Please!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] They'll buy the head.
Adam Curry:
That's a bargain. That's a deal.
Five grand is nothing these days for these so-called news outlets.
They would do that in a heartbeat, if they had the exclusive footage.
John C. Dvorak:
They had the head.
Adam Curry:
They've got the head. Yeah. Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
There was an actual head. So, uh...
Adam Curry:
Oh, man. That's funny.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm listening around, and I'm watching some--I guess it was a promotion for one of the playoff games or something.
And then they slipped in this real short Ozzy Osborne 15-second spot out of the blue, and it got right by me.
John C. Dvorak:
Luckily Buzzkill Junior said, "Hey, wait, you got--you're missing this!"
A ludicrous commercial, see if you can even understand what he says, but play the Ozzy commercial.
Clip:
Defence and offence. They collide for the AFC Championship. Sunday on CBS.
Ozzy?
Yeah?
Do you have a secret fantasy?
Yes. I'd like to fly to New York for a colonoscopy.
Enter the CBS Cares colonoscopy sweepstakes. You could be our winner.
Adam Curry:
What? The CBS colonoscopy sweepstakes?
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] That's what it says!
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
CBS colonoscopy sweepstakes
John C. Dvorak:
That's what it says
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Was it a joke? There was no evidence that it was humor.
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute, CBS colonoscopy sweepstakes [looking up on computer].
Did you look it up?
John C. Dvorak:
No I didn't bother. I was just like stunned.
I figured you'd look it up and add to the intrigue.
Adam Curry:
Ozzy Osbourne giving one lucky fan a free colonoscopy, well it's another pharma commercial.
Adam Curry:
Aw man, let's see. Uh, 60 minutes-
John C. Dvorak:
Do these people have no shame?
Adam Curry:
No, well you know
John C. Dvorak:
I have a fantasy, I want to fly to New York, and why would you go to New York for your colonoscopy? That's the last place I'd want to go.
Adam Curry:
Well that's probably where the clinic is or whatever.
There was something else that we saw you know that what's her name?
The chef who came out and said I have type 2 diabetes, Paula Deen
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah, big old Paula.
jd: She's the one who deep-fat fries butter.
Adam Curry:
Right. Well guess what she's doing now?
She's now doing a diabetes treatment commercial for Novo Nordisk's diabetes treatment, Victoza.
A whole promotion! First, she comes out and 'I have diabetes, and, you know, I'm living with type 2 diabetes'.
A literally she comes out after that with a commercial for diabetes medicine!
John C. Dvorak:
Kind of tight timing, isn't it?
Adam Curry:
Yeah! I didn't clip the commercial since it was jut so boring.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh
Adam Curry:
But, this is what is it resorted to, and people just eat that up.
Meanwhile, I think out theory on 2 Obamas is starting to hold water, John.
John C. Dvorak:
-laughter-
Adam Curry:
And let me tell you why. So, the third instalment of The Ulsterman Reports interview with the White House insider, came out yesterday.
Adam Curry:
And so, this is the guy who first talks about how Cam, what's his name again? Cam Co- Cowami? What was his name?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. That guy.
Adam Curry:
Right. How he died of mysterious heart attack in his - he was 57, and how there was this whole thing with [US Sen, Dianne] Feinstein and this stuff.
Adam Curry:
So I just wanted to continue in this saga because I really-
John C. Dvorak:
Maybe you should reiterate it a little bit, because some people might not have heard your exposition.
Adam Curry:
Okay. So, this "Cam," he basically was the organizer for the 2008 Democratic Convention.
This is a very well connected guy. Big money man.
John C. Dvorak:
Well-known.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, well-known. And well-loved.
John C. Dvorak:
Money guy. Packager.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, bundler, everything. And he was running the whole show.
Adam Curry:
And Obama going through the rehearsals, they literally - the Secret Service guys - they have to almost carry him off stage because he's so out-of-it.
And Cam thought that guy had eaten something bad, or was puking, or whatever.
They take him into a room where there is all this Gregorian chanting going on.
And then, like half-an-hour later, at first the make-up lady comes out with the make-up bag and he goes into this whole thing about Obama is always completed caked with make-up.
Adam Curry:
And then Obama comes out, completely like bouncing all over the place, he's great, he looks fantastic, he looks like the Obama we love on television.
There's a lot of rapid eye movement, which he said might have a lot to do with drugs.
But the guy didn't even recognise him!
The guy who was organizing the entire event who had been introduced to him, you know, several times over the previous few days.
And what the White House Insider asserts to is that because Cam told several people, including Dianne Feinstein, Senator Feinstein.
Adam Curry:
That they killed him for it!
And that he was telling too many people about this. Now, so, to kill someone over, you know, the fast that they are drugging up a president like yeah, we know that we know they're drugging up the president.
I don't think that's a big deal.
This is why my alarm bells are going. I'm saying, "Wait a minute, maybe there are 2 Obamas. Maybe-" well we'll get to the whole thing in a second.
Maybe that's the real secret here, and that the make-up, obviously has to be used to keep the kind of skin tone color or whatever.
And I'll get to that why that I think that's valid.
So he - in his third installment - he goes in and says listen to what else happened.
He says, you know, they didn't want to kill Feinstein.
But it was so bad! That she - do you remember what happened to her campaign funds?
Do you remember this story?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh right, they busted some women here in the Bay area who has apparently ripped off her
and a bunch of other people and so her campaign money was all gone.
Adam Curry:
Right. This is Kinde Durkee, a long-time campaign treasurer, who actually managed the funds of - it's like hundreds of campaigns-
John C. Dvorak:
It's a bunch, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Hundreds of campaigns. So, she was like 'Oh, she stole the five million dollars.'
And this Kinde Durkee, interestingly enough, on just a couple weeks ago, a federal judge granted the request of Assistant U.S. District Attorney, John K. Vincent to delay a preliminary hearing that has been scheduled.
And it will now be held on January 26th. So this woman hasn't even had her preliminary done yet.
And she embezzled five million dollars of Senator Feinstein's campaign.
So that's fishy, to say the least. Right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So that was kind of the slam, like 'Oh yeah, really?'
Because you can't go around killing senators that easily.
I mean, it can be done, but - you know, it's harder to do a heart attack on a women.
So here's the interesting bit, that Kam Kuwata - instead of - because we had a - the Insider mentions this:
Adam Curry:
We had a very important race in 2010 for attorney general of California.
It was Kamala Harris - do you remember of this?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I do.
Adam Curry:
Kamala Harris against - who was the other one?
John C. Dvorak:
The guy was a-
Adam Curry:
Steve Cooley. Steve Cooley.
John C. Dvorak:
Who was, by far more qualified.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
Had a fast-track to win. Kamala Harris was this miserable woman, black woman, who was the D.A. in San Francisco.
Adam Curry:
Asian, she was actually Asian.
Adam Curry:
She's actually Asian, not black.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, she was definitely a mix race then. Sorry. She is terrible.
She's a terrible D.A. She - I mean they were glad to get rid of her.
Adam Curry:
Right. But why did they need her, John? The needed her, because what is the job of the attorney general?
Besides dealing with crime and law enforcement, the attorney general is also responsible for preparing titles and summaries for ballot initiatives, consumer rights, and other polices.
Adam Curry:
The voting get rigged by these people. That's why they needed her to win.
John C. Dvorak:
There was a thesis that was floating around .. democratic, and republican parties both, that main job they should load up attorney generals in all the states because, when you have situation like what happened in Florida that got Bush elected, you need the attorney general in your party, because that's when you call on them, because you - for one thing, you support them.
And get them in there and then now, they are the stooges for the party.
It's as 'if needed'. They're almost like sleeper cells!
Adam Curry:
Exactly. And Kam Kuwata - she was an Obama girl. One hundred percent, already sanctioned. She was - because, of course, they wanted her in there.
And Kam Kuwata worked against her!
He was so freaked out by what he had seen - which we don't really know what it was, other than what was described.
That he actually helped raise money for Steve Cooley try and defeat her.
After that election, he died. Right after that.
And that's when you get the whole Feinstein thing, who then popped the news about Osama Bin Laden, which the White House Insider is saying, 'That was a message because she knows the real story.'
That the whole Osama Bin Laden is bull crap and she knows what really went down.
And this was the President's hero moment.
So, I'm thinking two things, John.
I am thinking ...
Adam Curry:
a) That we got the real Chicago mob, the real mob in the White House, killing people.
That this is not about a President being drugged up, but now think about the birth certificate.
What if not about being born in Hawaii, or Indonesia, or anywhere else.
What if it's the fact that they were twins?
John C. Dvorak:
-laughter-
Adam Curry:
Think about that, man.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh uh. I don't know.
Adam Curry:
Think about that, man. The whole reason that they come up with the whole 'Two Obamas' is that we have two Swearing-In Ceremonies of this President.
jd: Yeah, we had two Swearing-In Ceremonies
Adam Curry:
One public. And one in private, with no press. No cameras. No nothing.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah; which has never been explained.
Adam Curry:
Of course not.
John C. Dvorak:
Why would you have two Swearing-In Ceremonies?
And then we also started to notice the grey-haired Obama. They weren't doing a very good job of coordinating the two Obamas.
So one was more grey-haired them the other.
And once in a while, his hair was longer, then is the shorter, then it was longer again.
And, so now it seems it looks like they got the right make-up people [spoken with doom] who's lives are at risk.
Adam Curry:
And apparently, so one has a dark mole, and one has a light mole next to his nose on the left side.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
That's the key to look for.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, that's not going to be much of a key if they're using a lot of make-up.
Adam Curry:
Well, no.
But anyways, so just to wrap this up, the quote from the Insider because it's interesting.
They said, 'We follow it up with speaking out before the President on the only real achievement the administration can try to claim as much as a victory is the Bin Laden killing.
This senator is the one to make the first announcement, not the President, chose to do so at the Memorial for Calm.
Is that coincidence? No!
This senator was sending a message. They knew the real deal about bin Laden, or some of it.
They knew enough to challenge, if backed into a corner, that they would.
They would challenge the story that the White House was going to come out with the story that painted Barack Obama as a hero.
Adam Curry:
The senator was telling the White House to back off!'
Because of course, bin Laden: just another actor.
Just another actor!
Sitting there in is compound, which we know from our own producers that it's like a shamble of a shack.
Sitting there, being protected by the Pakistanis. Please everybody, turn your lights off.
Yeah, because we need to light the set properly.
This is unreal!
John C. Dvorak:
-laughter-
Adam Curry:
So I'm just loving it.
John C. Dvorak:
And that's why we get the big bucks to do this show.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
-laughter-
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
i-don:
t know about 'big bucks', but let me play this for a second:
Clip:
Judy Hoodruff will see you on-line. And again tomorrow evening with Mark Shields and David Brooks, among others. Thank you, and good night.
Major funding of The News Hour has been provided by: -music-
Clip:
-music-
Moving our economy for one-hundred, sixty years: BNSF. The engine that connects us.
And by, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation:
Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life.
John C. Dvorak:
So I timed that ad. That was a thirty second spot! That music.
Thirty seconds! Of crappy music! Because they couldn't even produce commercial.
Adam Curry:
No, they couldn't even say how evil - That's Burlington Northern, right? BNSF?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's- Then, of course, you've got the Burlington Northern, owned by your friend Warren Buffett.
And followed right by a Bill Gates ad, which is Buffett's best friend.
John C. Dvorak:
So, okay, we know these guys have sold themselves down the river.
We point it out all the time.
We try to tell people that this is the reason that WE do our model the way that it is.
And we're going to thank some of our donors for this particular show.
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second.
Jingle:
I'm going to show our support by donating to No Agenda.
Adam Curry:
Show us some love everybody!
Jingle:
Think about all the people can do that.
Oh yeah. That'd be fab.
Yeah! On No Agenda!
Adam Curry:
Donating is loving!
Jingle:
In the morning!
SFX:
ding! (bell)
John C. Dvorak:
Mark Fusco in San Antonio, Texas; $133.70
"From your future Somaiya knight"
Really?
Adam Curry:
Oh, from Somaiya. Nice.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that would be great.
"Karma donation for this week. I'll explain it later - if it works."
He needs karma.
Adam Curry:
Oh okay, hold on a second. There we go.
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
"Adam, you need to try to the Second Plus Congress Bar and Grill in San Antonio was this past week for lunch.
Take John and have the Scresory Rose."
I will the next time I'm in San Antonio.
Adam Curry:
Oh okay, Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Which is never.
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
John C. Dvorak:
Robert Goshgo
Adam Curry:
I'll be there. I'll go to 'San Antone'!
John C. Dvorak:
San Antone.
sir-robert-goshgo-in-sherwood-park-alberta:
$121.21 - which is a palindrome
Adam Curry:
A palindrome.
John C. Dvorak:
"In the morning John and Adam, I received my knight ring yesterday. Props to The Shill for his ingenious shipping method to get through the international mail system. Keep up the good work on The Best Podcast in the Universe."
"Can I get a karma shout out for the Northern Knights, winners here. And 'douche bag' for all the boners?"
He needs a combination, douche bag-karma?
Jingle:
Douche bag!
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Robert, "Giving is loving," he says.
Vernor Bogula, or Bo-gula. Bogula, I think, in Hamburg, Deutscheland 121.21 again.
"Hey, citizens."
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
John C. Dvorak:
"As a citizen trainer, I am planning a four-week hot curry tour to India where I want to confront my students, not only with the latest trends in 'drone journalism', but also with The Best Podcast in the Universe. Why? Because - if only 0.012 percent of 1.2 billion Indian citizens donation to the show, you two will be well-off!
Huh!
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. "As I-" Indians are cheap.
"As I celebrate my birthday as 21.1.12, I donate $121.21. So give me the Magic Number Karma to 'karma country' and a birthday call-out. Keep up the good work. Donating is love, and love is the answer. Call out Jan Pursiel as a douche bag. Why? Because - he is as superstitious as me. He will certainly donate too."
And he needs a karma for himself.
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
In Hamburg!
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, put him on the Birthday List, he's not on it.
Adam Curry:
Okay. Alright.
Adam Curry:
Vernor - ah yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Bogula, or Bogula, or Bo-gula.
Adam Curry:
Bogative.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know know.
I thought Jan Persiel did give us money.
Adam Curry:
I think - yeah that name does rings true to me as well, but well..
John C. Dvorak:
Well, he's going to have to straighten this out with a note.
Shadhi Hazazhi in Orpington, Kent $74.
John C. Dvorak:
"A karma and a birthday wish to my Faudi redeemer, monsieur celebrating a very special 37th birthday with family, and the wonderful newbown twins, Hallah and Hannah." from Shadhi
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
And when I say "Indians are cheap," by the way, I mean that they're cheap in India.
Adam Curry:
You mean that I can pick up a couple of Indians for little money, is that what you're saying, or..?
John C. Dvorak:
That's what I heard.
"Yapp Yulghuld in Visenkuga"
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
Hold on a second! I don't have on the list!
Adam Curry:
Oh here it is Yapp Hailjoot(?)
John C. Dvorak:
That's what I said.
Adam Curry:
In Wissenkerke.
John C. Dvorak:
gave $69
Adam Curry:
Oh, that's special humping karma.
John C. Dvorak:
That's the humping karma.
Sir Michael Miller in Tiberon, who seems to be helping more knights then anyone. $67
"Karma to all the knights."
He needs a karma to the knights.
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Sean Zinzmeister.
Sounds like a guy to really like Zinfandel. He's a Zinmeister!
Adam Curry:
Jawohl!
John C. Dvorak:
San Francisco. San Fransis-nuts. $66 "Hey citizen!"
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
John C. Dvorak:
"I was recently let go at my start-up company. I need a shot of karma to pick myself up off the mat. Hail the foot!"
Adam Curry:
Alright, I think we should do a "Hey citizen-karma" for a second here.
Jingle:
[ding-a-ling] Hey, citizen! You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Ooh!
Adam Curry:
Yeah. It's a new one
John C. Dvorak:
I'm liking that.
Adam Curry:
The Hey citizen-karma, that's right.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm liking that. That can be a request.
Adam Curry:
Yep.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey citizen-karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Rory Buszka in Carmel, Indiana.
"Dear John and Adam, I'm taking the opportunity to show you guys the sincerest form of love, short of giving you my life."
Adam Curry:
-laughter-
John C. Dvorak:
"By giving you some of my money in exchange for the value you deliver each week. Thank you for working on shedding light on the truth. Which is the most noble human endeavour. I consider myself among the enlightened so I'm doing my part to make sure other can hear. I give financially to my church for the same reason and I think that it makes just as much sense to give it to you guys."
Double nickels on the dime from Rory.
Adam Curry:
Very nice. Thank you, Rory, thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak:
And here's Jan Persiel from Hamburg.
Adam Curry:
Aha! There you go, so wait a minute. First, we gotta de-douche the guy. Hold on a second.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
Adam Curry:
By the way, Jan Persiel. Yeah. No, he's donated before, and you know, it worked out.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, okay. He's been de-douched. He's in good shape.
"Double nickels on the dime, value-for-value and a birthday shout-out to my friend, Vernor Bogula."
Adam Curry:
-laughter- Okay,
John C. Dvorak:
You mean he got- Oh okay, nevermind. Now we don't need to add him.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, ok.
John C. Dvorak:
He celebrates his birthday in 21st of February some karma Boy Vernor you must feel really bad now
Adam Curry:
Yeah for sure
John C. Dvorak:
And Bryan Grossa in Houston, Texas. Double nickels on the dime and 'It's way past time for me to quit being a boner, resume being a donor, please send my wife Jennifer some Karma for her job interview on Tuesday'
Jingle:
Karma "You've got Karma"
John C. Dvorak:
'And then call out Nathanael H of Dallas and Chris S of Boulder as douchebags' ..
.. and there you go.... ".. thanks for producing the best podcast in the Universe and countering all the BS.'
Craig Stearly in Santa Monica California comes in with $50, Robert Stokes Alvarado, Texas comes... We got a lot more Texas donors now that you in Texas, by the way.
Adam Curry:
Yeah that's my home boys, you know they come in and they propagate ...
John C. Dvorak:
$50.50 It's Alvarado, Texas 'Here you go guys I wish I could do more and go get something of the dollar menu on me I couldn't get through a week without you. Donating is loving.'
Robert, Fort Worth. He's in Fort Worth, actually. Which.. where all the money is by the way, in Texas.. $50. Greg Tippit of Point Lonsdale Victoria - Canada, I assume.. $50. And Jason Forton in Geneva, IL a NEW donor with $50. And those are the people that helped us do Show 376 and we want to thank them and everyone who gives lessor amounts and all of the new subscribers, too! So go to dvoark.org/na, channeldovorak.com/na, noagendanation.com and
noagendashow.com to help us continue the effort that we put into this event.
Jingle:
dvorak.org/na
Jingle:
giving is loving, at givingloving.com
Adam Curry:
There you go! And ahh..
I've been able to turn the noise gate on now, since the wind has died down, so...
I think it might...
It makes the listening a little bit more pleasurable, so you don't have that...
I mean, it's nice to hear the ocean a little bit, but not for the whole time.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, ok, I didn't really hear it at all.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, let's take a look at the birthdays for a second.
John C. Dvorak:
I'd love to hear the ocean.
Jingle:
It's your birthday birthday! On No Agenda!
Adam Curry:
(singing along) on No Agenda
Alright, so, Shadi Hijazi congratulates Fadi Mansour, who turns 37.
Yom Perseel congratulates his buddy Burner Bogola...
Bogula, uh he celebrated yesterday on the 21st.
Of course you also get a card from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show, so Happy Birthday everybody!
Jingle:
It's your birthday, yeah!
Adam Curry:
And no Knights to speak of, John.
Nothing in the knighthood area today at all.
jc:
Well, we'll make up for that.
Adam Curry:
I am very happy to announce, in the second half of the show, that, you know how when it gets a little too hot under the heels for the elites, they always come out and announce stuff, like, "Oh, yeah! No! We were planning that all along, sure".
Russia now in talks with the US and Europe on plans to create a manned research base on the moon!
There you go.
Moon bases! Confirmed! Once again!
Hate to say it.
SFX:
(call bell)
John C. Dvorak:
(chuckle) Moon bases.
Adam Curry:
You can cross it off the red book.
I've always said there were moon bases up there, and now they're just going say, "Oh, yeah, no, yeah, we were planning, yeah, we'll do a moon base."
Bullcrap, there's plenty of moon bases already.
They're just trying to trick us.
John C. Dvorak:
So I've got kind of an aside here.
Adam Curry:
Alright.
John C. Dvorak:
So I guess it was at CES, or giving a keynote or something, but the idiot from eBay, the CEO?
I call him an idiot, because just listen to this short clip, and then imagine a world like this, and tell me how far you'd get.
Clip:
[ebay CEO talking]Whether it's through voice or visual, walking down the street, saying, "Boy, I like that person's shoes, let me snap a picture..."
Adam Curry:
(chuckle)
Clip:
"...and see which retailers have shoes similar like that... And you laugh. The technology exists today to do this.
And you're seeing more and more. Retailers, and more and more technology providers, making that possible.
'I like your tie. I'm going to take a picture of it. I'll find out where I can get it shipped home, or what retailers around me have ties like that.'
An explosion of visual search and visual technologies through these devices."
John C. Dvorak:
Give him the hook.
Can you imagine going down the street with a camera, and then taking pictures of people's feet, and not getting punched out?
Adam Curry:
You know what this is?
Whenever I hear this...
John C. Dvorak:
What kind of idiot is this guy?
"Hey look, I'm just taking a picture of your feet ma'am, because I was thinking of buying those same shoes for my wife."
Yeah, right!
Adam Curry:
Now, now this is very "silicon valley".
Whenever people are talking bullcrap, it's always about, "Your refrigerator will know when your milk is about to go bad. It will automatically order from the grocer and it will show up on your doorstep automatically!"
Yeah, now, is that really all you can come up with?
John C. Dvorak:
(chuckle)
Adam Curry:
"You're gonna snap, but excuse me, I love those pumps honey. Excuse me ma'am, but I know my wife will look really hot in those
so do you mind if I just snap a picture?"
jc:
(chuckle)
Can you imagine?
Adam Curry:
Douchebag.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a good way to get slapped.
Now I don't want anyone taking pictures of my tie, because they're going to quote-unquote "buy" the tie.
"Hey, the tie has been out of service for ten years. I wear old ties."
How many ties can you buy?
I mean, who's gonna take a picture of someone's tie, because you want to buy the tie?
It's usually a red tie, I mean, you don't need to take a picture.
Or can't you pick a tie?
Can't you go to the store, like a normal person, look at the ties available, and say, "You know, I like that tie."
Why do you have to copy somebody who's wearing a tie, because you like the tie they're wearing?
Are you like Bill Gates copying Steve Jobs?
Or are you just a complete moron, you can't buy a tie?
Jingle:
John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve Of The Day [music]
Adam Curry:
There you go.
John C. Dvorak:
Exactly.
Adam Curry:
There you go.
jdc:
Yep.
Adam Curry:
Hey, I forgot to tell you about our TSA experience in Houston.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, what happened?
Adam Curry:
So, we decided that instead of flying from Austin to Bonaire...
Bonaire is only a four hour flight.
So instead of flying from Austin to Houston, and Houston down to Bonaire, we'd drive up.
Which I thought, you know, it's like three hours, if you put it all together, flying is more hours.
John C. Dvorak:
You drove to Houston?
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
You drove to Houston??
Adam Curry:
Yes!
John C. Dvorak:
Wow.
Adam Curry:
Well it's only three hours.
It was fun, you know.
It was a midnight flight, so I was like, "Ah, we'll just drive", you know, whatever.
It was actually quite nice.
They're nice roads, they got good roads between... all over Texas.
With no income tax.
How do they do it?
I dunno, amazing!
So, we're there early, and we're all checked in, and we're gonna go through the TSA, and of course they have the naked body scanner running.
So we're all ready to opt out, and there's a real dickwad sitting behind the X-ray machine.
So there's literally like two people besides us in line, and there's some guy in a
wheelchair, and they're giving him a hassle, and of course he can't stand in the naked body...
It was one of the older L3 models, you know, the one that... the cylindrical one?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
That they used to have in the San Francisco airport?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So, you know, so the guy can't get in.
So they're giving him a hassle, and then the douchebag behind the bags X-ray, he's like, "Bag check!"
And no-one responds.
There's like 20 guys doing nothing.
"Bag check!"
And you know, he's leaning over in his chair with his hands behind his head, so, you know, the belt is stopped, and so we're waiting for that.
And for whatever reason, this is kind of our luck of the draw, after they went through the whole wheelchair thing with the guy, they decided only the magnometer.
So we didn't have to opt out of that, but I was all ready to say, you know, and I was kind of looking forward to it, I was ready to say, "Hey, you know why I'm not going through that thing? Because they ordered dosimeters to figure out your cancer clusters!"
But anyway, I didn't get to do that, unfortunately.
But, my bag goes through, and I have the carry-on, which is the studio, right?
So it's got in there a microphone, wires, you know, the big Behringer MIDI controller/mixer, all of this stuff.
And so this douchebag behind the X-ray machine, he's yelling down the line to all four people standing there, including Micky, because I'd already gone through:
[loudly]"All major electronics, take them out of your bag!
All blah blah dap dap dap all major electronics!"
You know how they do that, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
And Micky says, "How about my iPad?"
"No, iPads are fine!"
So my bag goes through, I've taken out my laptops.
And then the guy goes, "Bag check! What's this, we got a major appliance in this one!"
And the guy says...
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
Adam Curry:
And the guy says, "What do you have in there? Do you have a big appliance?"
I said, "Yeah, it's a mixer."
"We said all big appliances have to go out!"
I'm like, "The iPad is okay, but... what's big?"
"How big is it?! It's a big appliance!"
Go look on the website and see if you can find the term "big appliance".
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
Adam Curry:
So I'm like, okay, this guy's a dick.
Then Micky puts her shoes through.
Now I talked to her about this, and I'm allowed to talk about it, but I'm not allowed to make fun of it.
So she has a leg difference.
Now, I don't know if we've ever mentioned this on the show, but one leg is a little shorter than the other.
And by the way, Micky has extremely long legs.
Very beautiful.
But one of her legs is a little bit shorter, so she has a lift that she puts into her shoes.
And recently, she had a new one made, because it turns out the one she's been using for years wasn't tall enough.
And I was actually quite delighted, because I'm like, "Honey, why don't we just buy you one of those big, you know, the big black boot? The clumpy one? And then we could probably get one of those invalid stickers for the car."
You know, so I'm like "C'mon, this is good. Don't feel bad about it."
And then, you know, all you have to do is once in a while...
John C. Dvorak:
Think of the free parking!
Adam Curry:
Exactly!
And then, you know, we could probably get you a wheelchair to go through, we don't have to go through the naked body scanner.
I said, "But think about it, all you have to do is, once in a while, you have to wear the big clump foot. You know, it'd be kind of cool."
You know what I mean, John, the big black boot that's like ten inches high?
You know what I'm talking about?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, go on.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
So the guys says, "Who's shoes are these?!"
Micky's like, "Mine."
Guy says, "What's in them?!"
And then, you know, so this is embarrassing, right?
This is some a-hole...
(Micky) said, "Well, I have a leg difference, so I have a lift in there."
And the guy says, "Yeah? Well we watched you walk and we didn't see... we didn't notice anything when you were walking."
Is that an ass, or what?!
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
What a jerk!
Wow!
Adam Curry:
And then...
John C. Dvorak:
You should file a complaint with the TSA about this!
Adam Curry:
You know, I really should, actually.
John C. Dvorak:
You should, no, totally, you should file a complaint.
It's no problem figuring out who this guy is.
I'm sure all the TSA people hate him.
Because I've worked with guys like this, and you don't like people who are like this.
The guy's making it hard on everybody, and everybody hates everyone in the TSA because of him.
He needs a complaint filed against him.
He's mean, he's not even following the guidelines.
I mean, he's in violation of his own terms... his own contract.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, no, you're right.
You're absolutely...
Adam Curry:
She's out now, I'm going to tell Micky we're going to file a complaint.
It was so insulting!
You know, it's like... women don't want to, it's not like a thing they feel good about.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, at least they didn't strip search her like they did with a grandma.
Adam Curry:
Well, who knows, but...
John C. Dvorak:
So, Houston, so this is Houston, is this the Love airport, or the main Houston International?
Adam Curry:
This is George Bush International, Intercontinental airport, duh.
The Bush airport.
This guy, "We were watching you walk! You didn't walk funny!"
(sigh)
She was upset!
(chuckle)
Now come to think of it, I should have filed a complaint right on the spot, you're right, that was dumb.
Anyway, let me get this guy a...
Jingle:
Douchebag
Adam Curry:
And we're going to file a complaint, that's a good idea. I totally agree.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, they have a complaint process, and it gets put in his record, no matter what...
You know, they may not do anything, but it goes in his record and so when some hard-ass supervisor wants to go after the guy, they've got...
Adam Curry:
Yeah, they got a record.
John C. Dvorak:
"We've got complaints about you."
Adam Curry:
They got a record.
John C. Dvorak:
You gotta complain about these TSA guys, if they give you... if they do anything out of the ordinary.
Adam Curry:
You're right. You're right. I messed that one up.
John C. Dvorak:
Believe me, it goes right in their file and it will go down the road some day and it will pay off for you.
Adam Curry:
Yep.
John C. Dvorak:
The guy will be out.
Adam Curry:
You're right. You're right.
John C. Dvorak:
So I'm saying that to anybody in Houston, you probably...
Other people must have run into this clown.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. He had like short blonde hair, a real nazi.
Eh, you'll notice him.
Adam Curry:
(sigh)
Oh, um, GX2 made a little jingle for us, for our white party, at the Acropolis, which we now can rent for $2000.
John C. Dvorak:
(chuckle)
Jingle:
The white party, the white party, at Ecropolis. Don't miss it.
Adam Curry:
(laughter)
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
Adam Curry:
I can hear, I can just hear the jingle running...
John C. Dvorak:
Sounds like... either that or the drag race, yeah, that's good.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I can hear that running on Greek radio stations day and night.
It's like, "Yeah, hey man, we're throwing this E party over there at the Acropolis. We're calling it the Ecropolis baby. Here, check it out man, it's really cool."
Adam Curry:
It's really like, we're really, we're really gonna rock it man."
I love it!
I think it's really cool.
Hold on a second, let me see if I can play it again.
Wait, he also, he sent a second version, hold on.
Let's see what this one is.
Jingle:
The white party. The white party. Ecropolis. Don't miss it.
Adam Curry:
(laughter)
You go, GX2.
So, there is some news from Euroland.
John C. Dvorak:
From where?
Adam Curry:
Euroland.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh?
Adam Curry:
Yep.
I guess the agreements, the talks broke down between the creditors, the hedge funds i.e., and they left.
So this was... this is a new player on the scene, which I don't know too much about, the Institute of International Finance.
I guess these are the guys who represent the private creditors.
Left the table as they were negotiating with the IMF.
This is about the 130 billion euro package that Greece needs.
And they said, now, they left on Saturday and said, you know, "We had long-standing personal appointments, so, you know, we'll see if we can come get back to you on Monday."
So this is a tactic, obviously.
They just got up and left.
So, looking more and more like there's gonna be some real problems in Euroland.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
There's also... well, while we're talking about problems, I was watching Al Jazeera
and they ah ..they kinda just .. of course they are not talking about it much here in our news thing, but .. Apparently the Islamists .. just a quick news story .. took over Egypt!
Adam Curry:
While we weren't looking!
Clip:
[reporter]'.. and Egyptians have spoken as Islamist parties dominate Parliament with more than 70% of the seats.'
John C. Dvorak:
It's just that simple. 70% of the seats.
Adam Curry:
That's it? That's all the news we got?
John C. Dvorak:
that's all we got
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute, isn't that a huge deal?
Isn't this the whole point, is that Egypt, was, you know, they were fighting for their freedom, and Anderson Pooper was there on Tahrir square, and we were all taking care of business, it was all groovy, it was all great?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, and there was a Twitter, and they cut off the Internet, and it was a big deal, and all this other stuff.
So who takes over the Islamists?
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Which of course makes me wonder if they just wanted them to take over so they could create more havoc with Israel.
I'm not sure what the deal is, but this is not what the American people expected from all this bullcrap.
But now that no-one's talking about it, by the way.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
By the way, they showed in the thing, they showed all these guys, there was a big poster of all these different Islamists.
(chuckle)
They all had the same big beard, it was like a stereotype guys.
It looked like a bunch of Taliban guys.
Adam Curry:
Like an FBI most wanted poster in the post office, is that what it looked like?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, only it was just, beard beard beard beard beard.
Adam Curry:
(laughter)
Ah, gotta love that.
John C. Dvorak:
What is with this beard thing?
Adam Curry:
It's part of the religion, man, what do you mean "what is it with this beard thing"?
John C. Dvorak:
Some Salafits has gotta explain, or somebody who's not a Salafits, but one of the other guys, has to explain where this comes from, because I don't know... you can't cut your beard. Is that... I didn't know that was in the Quran, but apparently it must be, or it's somewhere.
Adam Curry:
It's interesting how, isn't that the same with Orthodox Jews, they also can't cut their beard, and...
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no, they're very much cut from the same cloth.
Adam Curry:
Huh. On opposite sides of the cloth, though.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, one wears black, all black, and the other one wears all white, so I guess maybe.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Oh! Oh check this out. While I am here on this shitty assed connection, there's Ms. Micky on a speedboat. [Adam yelling]'Hey blow me!' [pause] I cannot believe that... they're rolling up in a speedboat here in front of the house. This is not okay.
John C. Dvorak:
Was she out skiing, or what?
Adam Curry:
I dunno! Lex Luther .. his uh.. Persian Princess ..and the Persian carpet guy and Micky.
Adam Curry:
Oh man.
John C. Dvorak:
What, you wanted to be in the boat?
You wanna drive the boat?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I'd love... well, they're having fun on the boat.
John C. Dvorak:
Mm hmm.
Adam Curry:
Oh well.
Oh, so I did debrief the Persian princess a bit.
I was saying, "You know, hey, do you know, do people in..."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's right, you were... this was the show you were gonna give us a report about Iran, and now the show's almost over and you have yet to give us the report.
Adam Curry:
Well, my deal... I'm not waterboarding her, John, I'm just trying to get some, you know, some information in casual conversation.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, I thought you were waterboarding her.
Adam Curry:
I'm taking it easy with her.
I said, you know, "What is the deal? I mean, isn't Iran like all kinds of young people who are all really cool, and they're connected, and they get it all?"
And she said, "Yeah, that's absolutely true, but you have no idea what's really going on."
And she, by the way, she may be a disinformant, I don't know.
So, here's the thing she was telling, which I found kind of interesting.
She said, "So you have these young people, and these kids will be watching YouTube videos, which they have perfect access
to, by the way. They'll go and cut their hair kind of in an American style.. or European or whatever they find fashionable. But then when they are walking on the street, they have these vans and then guys will jump out of the van, will grab these kids, drag them into the van and then shave their head and say .. and then make hem agree to a statement that they will never do it again and they have to prove it with a thumb print on this statement."
John C. Dvorak:
What?!
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
And girls who have...
John C. Dvorak:
So they... wait, so there's a bunch of essentially enforcement vigilantes... this was taking place in Afghanistan during the Taliban era. And they would, short of throwing acid in their face... so they grab them, if the girl's got a nice hairdo?
Adam Curry:
Well, she was talking about the boys.
If the girls, for instance...
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, the boys.
Boys can't have a haircut, or what?
Adam Curry:
No, they can't have a Western-looking haircut.
Then they grab them, they grab them into the bus, they shave their head.
I don't know if they shave it completely bald, or crew cut.
But they make them sign a statement they'll never do it again, and they have to sign... you know, it's almost like they have to sign it in blood, but instead they have to put their thumbprint on the document that says they were apprehended, and they'll never do it again.
John C. Dvorak:
Well who's behind these abductions?
Adam Curry:
I don't know, the regime.
And for girls, they do the same thing, if you have a lock of hair showing
from underneath your scarf .. umm.. borka I guess. Or if your skirt or dress is too short they do the same thing. But what is interesting is the thumb print thing. And that goes on your file. It goes on your record. That's about all I have right now.
John C. Dvorak:
Well that's pretty bad!
Adam Curry:
Yeah! It doesn't sound fun ..
John C. Dvorak:
I am surprised the Persians put up with this stuff
Adam Curry:
This is what I am trying to get out of her. I'm like, You so .. you guys putting up with that? Are you gonna
you know...
So, I think the message that she's giving me is, it's not great over there, but that's their problem as far as I'm concerned, I don't think we should go bombing anything to go save them from the haircut.
You know, they've gotta have their own revolution, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, as long as Western stuff is creeping in...
Although, I would say within the next few years we're going to see all the internets are going to be firewalled off from each other.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
There won't be an internet anymore, and no-one's going to care.
I've said this, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: We'll have a national internet in the United States, and Iran will have one, everyone will have one, and it'll be walled off, excepting if you're an academic or if you know what you're doing, sure you can get to the Chinese websites if you want to, but generally speaking, the average American, if you walled off the internet tomorrow, so you could not really get out of the country, people could still get to Amazon...
Adam Curry:
Oh, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
...they could still read the New York Times, they could still look at YouTube videos of cats.
Adam Curry:
And Facebook!
John C. Dvorak:
And Facebook, exactly. And Twitter, and they could still go to Hulu.
Adam Curry:
Yep.
John C. Dvorak:
So they would not care one bit.
Adam Curry:
Yep, and it'll be introduced as the porn-free internet, we now have the model.
By the way, breaking news, first unofficial referendum for Croatia: 67 per cent voted for entrance into the EU.
Surprise, surprise.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well that's no surprise.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, let me get back to the EU for a second.
There is a fantastic journalist in Ireland and I think Vincent Browne is his name. This is a little bit longer clip but it's well worth listening to. So there's a press conference by some European Central Bank spokeshole. And who, by the way, has his deputy spokeshole sitting next to him. Some woman who, you know.. you'll hear her in the clip. And so this Vincent Browne - the ECB guy- he goes off on this long tangent which I am not going to play for you. Like 'This was so great... I took a cab from the airport and my taxi driver he's so aware
and he so understands the situation, he really gets it, and boy you Irish people are so great.'
And then this Vincent Browne, this journalist who has a -- I think he's on TV in Ireland -- he's an older gentleman, which means he's probably being portrayed as a kook.
It's time for him to ask a question, and he basically says, "Okay, so did this cab driver at all talk to you about the fact that we're being forced into austerity, and that we are now being overtaxed, and this huge burden is being
put on us to bail out failed banks?"
A valid question, right John?
John C. Dvorak:
Yes.
Clip (Vincent Browne):
Did your taxi driver tell you how the Irish people are bewildered that we are required to pay unguaranteed bond holders billions of Euros for debts that the Irish people have no relation to, or have no bearing with, primarily to bail out
Clip (Vincent Browne):
or to ensure the solvency of European banks?
And if your taxi driver asked you that question, or if the taxi driver had asked you that question, what would have been your response? That's my first question.
Adam Curry:
Now, listen to the doucheknuckle, so immediately the woman grabs the mic.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Well, well, can we take a couple together, can you ask the second question?
Clip (Vincent Browne):
Yeah, but, my second question is a completely different issue, and it may have a follow-through
Clip (Vincent Browne):
if Mr. ??? does not answer the question in a way that...
Clip (Speaker 2):
Well hang on.
Clip (Vincent Browne):
...would illuminate the taxi driver's understanding of all this, I would have a follow-through question.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Right. Can I ask you then to pass the mic and we come back to you for the second question?
Adam Curry:
(laughter)
Shut up slave, pass the mic!
Clip (Vincent Browne):
Well if you don't mind, that way of breaking up the exchange, and I would prefer if it went this way, with a tradition in
Irish journalism, that we pursue issues, and that when somebody doesn't ask a question we follow through on it, and I hope that tradition would be respected on this occasion. So, could you ask the question?
Adam Curry:
So, then now they're whispering to each other, putting their hands over their mics, like "Who is this kook? Who is this idiot? Why is he questioning our authority? How come you didn't set up this press conference properly? How'd you let this idiot in?"
Clip (Vincent Browne):
Answer the question.
Clip (Speaker 3):
Mr. Vincent, I have answered very similar question of you, I think it was
two years ago.
Clip (Vincent Browne):
You addressed the question, you addressed the question.
Clip (Speaker 3):
You asked the question, I answered it. I would say, I can understand that this is a difficult decision to be made by the government, and there's no doubt about it, but there are different aspects of the problem to be balanced against each other, and I can understand that the government came to the view that, all in all, the costs for the Irish people for the
stability of the banking system, for the confidence in the banking system...
Adam Curry:
(chuckle)
Clip (Speaker 3):
...of taking certain action in this respect, which you are mentioning, could likely have been much bigger than the benefits for the taxpayer, which of course would have been there. So the financial sector would have been affected. The confidence of the financial sector would have been negatively affected...
Adam Curry:
(chuckle)
Clip (Speaker 3):
...and I can understand that there were... it was a difficult decision, but the decision was taken in this direction.
Clip (Vincent Browne):
That doesn't address the issue. We are required to pay, in respect of a defunct bank, that has no bearing on the welfare of the Irish people at all. We are required to pay, in respect of this defunct bank, billions on unguaranteed bonds, in order to ensure the health of European banks. Now, what would you explain... How would you explain that situation to the
taxi driver that you had talked about earlier?
Clip (Speaker 3):
I think I have addressed...
Adam Curry:
(chuckle)
Clip (Vincent Browne):
No, you haven't addressed the question, because you've referred to the viability of the Irish financial institutions. This financial institution I am talking about is defunct. It's over. It's finished. Now, why are the Irish people required, under threat from the ECB, why are the Irish people required to pay billions to unguaranteed bond holders under threat to the ECB?
[silence]
Clip (Vincent Browne):
You didn't answer the question the last time, so maybe you'd answer it this time.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Well, I think he doesn't have anything to add to what he's already said.
Clip (Vincent Browne):
Well, if you just... this isn't good, this isn't good enough. This isn't good enough. You people are intervening in this society, causing huge damage, by requiring us to make payments, not for the benefit of anybody in Ireland, but for the benefit of European financial institutions. Now could you explain why the Irish people are inflicted with this burden?
Adam Curry:
And, he's cut off.
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
He's cut off.
Adam Curry:
End of story.
John C. Dvorak:
He's actually cut off right there?
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
I love the German guy though. [in a German accent]
"I have addressed this question. It is clearly..."
John C. Dvorak:
Oh I like, it's the PR woman that I get the kick out of.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, oh yeah, she's like, "Could you just pass the mic? Just, you know, we're really tired of you. You've asked this every single time. You're so annoying with the same question. You kook! Get out of here."
This is what your journalists should be doing.
This is what every blogger should be
going to every...
Whenever there's one of these...
And I'm talking Gitmo Nation Europe now, Euroland.
You've got to get into these press conferences, and you've gotta expose these guys.
It really is unbelievable, because it's very simple the way he's putting this.
Like, "We're bailing out failed banks for bond holders who just had a bad investment, and how come we have to pay for that?"
[in a German accent]
"Well, we from ECB are not going to answer your question,
we are addressing your question, which is different from answering your question. So, you shut up slave."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's pathetic.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it really is. Let's close the...
John C. Dvorak:
Well, the Irish didn't want to be part of this scheme to begin with, and they got pushed into it, and now they're... they kind of...
Adam Curry:
They got screwed.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know what to make of it.
They got screwed.
"They got some money leftover? We'll take it."
Jingle:
The euro. (clock ticking) (bomb falling, exploding) (toilet flushing)
Adam Curry:
And, so we close our Euro segment for today's show.
John C. Dvorak:
(laughter)
Adam Curry:
(laughter)
Let me see, I don't think I had much left over other than... nope, no... I think... I know you have a couple of other things left, but...
John C. Dvorak:
Eh, there's nothing here that's critical.
Adam Curry:
Oh, I do have something I'll be working on that I'd like to mention. Remember the act known as the Enemy Expatriation Act?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah?
Adam Curry:
This is part of the .. the second part of the National Defense Authorization Act. It's like, 'You know , ahh.. you got a problem with us.. ahh.. blackbagging American citizens? No problem! Here's how we are going to do it. If we find out you're an American citizen and you are supporting terror then we are gonna just take your passport away and you will no longer be a citizen.'
So, apparently there's a bill in the House AND the Senate now, John.
There's two bills, so this thing is moving forward, and I haven't read them yet, but you know I will be, I'll be ready for Thursday.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm, okay, well it sounds like more fun.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Hopefully we'll have more support, and I want to encourage people to help us here.
Okay, well, you're gonna, then this is going to be our last... we have one more crummy quality broadcast coming from...
Adam Curry:
Bonaire?
John C. Dvorak:
Boner?
Adam Curry:
Yep, Boner.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, Boner? I thought it was Boner.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, Boner. Gitmo Nation Boner.
John C. Dvorak:
So you're in Boner.
Adam Curry:
Yep.
John C. Dvorak:
And then after Thursday, when are you coming back?
Adam Curry:
We're flying back Saturday morning.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, okay.
Adam Curry:
So the plane that flies in Saturday morning, and by the way, it'll be a two-hour wait at this crummy airport just to get on board, I know how it happened last time.
But anyway, just want you all to know, I will be spending my vacation reading up on the Enemy Expatriation Act, House Resolution 3166 and Senate Bill...
Jingle:
(closing music)
John C. Dvorak:
And make sure we mention who the sponsors of these bills are.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, yeah. And that'll be 1-6-niner-8.
So I'll be printing those out, since there's no real WiFi to speak of here. (chuckle)
And, I shall be reading those for your listening pleasure on Thursday.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay, well that'll be interesting to see what that's all about.
Adam Curry:
So ..uh.. everybody? Thank you very much for hanging in there! John? Thank you.. I know that.. I know that it is difficult from my end and I know it is even harder on your end because you probably are not only hearing every other word I say but probably only half the clips I play, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Ahh .. It could be better!
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Anyway.. we try! But this is the cheapest vacation I could get cause I am not paying for where I am staying. And that's my motto damn it! Coming to you ...
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah! Hey I am ALL FOR IT!
Adam Curry:
Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Boner, just sixty clicks north of a lo presidente Hugo Chavez's lair, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's football day the rest of the day here in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
We will talk to you again on Thursday, right here, on No Agenda.
Jingle:
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